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Post by freshnthehouse on Jan 19, 2006 1:47:55 GMT -5
I wouldn't say it makes no sense. It has very little chance of happening. But Szerbiak can play, is a good defender, hardnosed, efficient player. Averages 20 a game. Plus he is signed longer than Pierce and may be easier to re-sign down the road. We dont want want Szerbiak He is an over-paid one trick pony who whines to the media more than Blount. Just say no to Wallyworld.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jan 19, 2006 2:44:41 GMT -5
I'm with Fresh. No to Wally's World.
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Post by mev17 on Jan 19, 2006 2:49:13 GMT -5
The one negative about tonight's game is that, based on how each player played, it might take more than just Blount to get Kandi out of Minnesota. LOL
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Post by FLCeltsFan on Jan 19, 2006 9:13:38 GMT -5
I personally prefer the trade with Memphis and think that the Kandi trade rumors and the Banks to LA for a pick are to try to force West's hand. He really wants Banks. Danny is letting the leaks out about trades with the other teams and is after someone that the Grizz have and that he wants and that West has said no to so far. I think in the end it may be Banks and Blount to Memphis for Wright + someone. Either that or Danny is trying hard to get Seattle involved with the Wolves trade to somehow pry Swift from them. Today's paper said that he offered Green for Swift and they turned him down. He may be working to get a 3 or 4 team trade going to somehow get Swift from the Sonics while dumping Blount and maybe Banks. Could be Grizz, Seattle, Wolves and Celts so that the Grizz can get Banks, Danny gets Swift and the other teams swap the other pieces to the trade. Probably Wolves get Blount and Kandi maybe to Seattle or whoever else they get involved.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jan 19, 2006 10:13:23 GMT -5
Wow, the Robert Swift saga continues. I see it 2 ways: either its meant to be (because he's trying so hard to get the kid), or its not meant to be (he's been trying so hard and can't seem to land the kid). If Ainge really likes the kid, it makes you wonder if he thinks Swift's potential is greater than Perk's. Why go so hard after Swift if he isn't better than Perks, right?
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Post by FLCeltsFan on Jan 19, 2006 11:11:17 GMT -5
Wow, the Robert Swift saga continues. I see it 2 ways: either its meant to be (because he's trying so hard to get the kid), or its not meant to be (he's been trying so hard and can't seem to land the kid). If Ainge really likes the kid, it makes you wonder if he thinks Swift's potential is greater than Perk's. Why go so hard after Swift if he isn't better than Perks, right? Could be he sees a good upside. But so far, I think the kid has only had 2 good games to speak of. I can't see him being better than Perk. He is still too skinny to bang in the post with the big guys. Maybe Danny sees putting on some muscle and getting him with the strength and conditioning coaches. Maybe a good back up or a twin towers type thing rotating Swift, Perk and Al as bigs. I hate to say it, and it sounds terrible, but Danny does seem to have this thing for white players After all he brought in Veal, Dickau, and Raef when sanity would have dictated other choices. I don't know how to explain it otherwise.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jan 19, 2006 17:30:59 GMT -5
From what I've seen of Swift-which, admittedly, isn't much-he's not much of a prospect. Supposedly he's got basketball smarts, but I don't know if his rebounding and defense is good enough to cover up for just having smarts. Not an imposing figure, not that fast or explosive.
But man, if Ainge still digs the kid, there's got to be something to him. Time will tell if he ever becomes a Celtics, or if he amounts to anything.
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Post by eja117 on Jan 19, 2006 17:40:33 GMT -5
I don't see how Ainge could like this guy. He gets no playing time, and Ainge can't watch him practice. the only time he could even barely see him is at the summer league and he didn't light it up there either. If he really wants Swift he doesn't need to trade for him. He just needs to wait till after next year when he becomes a free agent and he can sign him for less than Scala if he wants him that bad. I seriously doubt the way he's going he'll get any play time with he Sonics who also have Johan Petro who is developing at maybe a similar rate and brings more to the table. They also have Collinson. He's just another guy who came out way too early cause he knew some stupid team would fall for the p word. That word that just means "sucks right now". potential.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jan 19, 2006 17:58:21 GMT -5
Ainge scouted the high school scene heavily the year Swift was a senior (the same year Jefferson was a high school senior). I think he must have fallen in love with Swift at that time. The McD's game showcased some of his game, but I wasn't overly impressed.
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Post by FLCeltsFan on Jan 20, 2006 7:48:49 GMT -5
This from the Projo news. Seems they are getting "desperate" to dump Blount:
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Post by eja117 on Jan 20, 2006 8:18:00 GMT -5
The McDs game was just one game. What do you trust? That or a career?
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jan 20, 2006 10:53:45 GMT -5
The McDs game was just one game. What do you trust? That or a career? It was just a glimpse of what I saw, and I posted what my assesment was. From that game, I was able to see that Dwight Howard really had a good chance to be a player in the NBA, realized that Jefferson was also a player, and that I really wanted Sebastian Telfair. Swift didn't excite me much, but he did do some damage while on the floor with those guys. I really hope Blount can be traded away to the Wolves. I think maybe McHale is holding out for more than just Blount, though.
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Post by eja117 on Jan 20, 2006 12:10:59 GMT -5
I think in that game when someone plays well you can see who has the tools and talent but that's about it. It's hard to see work ethic and basketball IQ. And you can't think back to that game after 2 years of terrible bball and say "yeah but he had a great McDs game." cause it's not high school anymore. Also if someone has a bad game you can't get too down on a guy either but have to evaluate his career. Like if Lebron had had a terrible shooting game and looked slow he probably still should have been the top pick.
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Post by BCHISTORIAN on Jan 20, 2006 15:22:36 GMT -5
forget the swift hoopla. it's just that journalists don't have many topics to choose from when ainge is in play. he hides his poker hand well...
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jan 21, 2006 16:35:58 GMT -5
Not tooting my own horn, but I get a fairly good scouting assesment from seeing a player for the first time. You can tell a good amount from watching a player, seeing how he makes instant adjustments, seeing how quick his reaction time is, seeing how he moves around the court, seeing what he does with the ball when he can't score, seeing what he does without the ball, etc.
Granted, you can't tell about his work habits after just watching one game, and if he has a bad game, it won't reflect his real game. But that wasn't the case with Swift. He had a good game and did a lot of different things that showed me his agility level, his court awareness, his smarts, his scoring ability, etc.
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