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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jan 18, 2006 3:16:11 GMT -5
Well, he's still a Celtic as of now. But according to the Herald, Memphis (straight up for Lorenzen Wright), Cleveland (maybe for Drew Gooden and Damon Jones), and Denver (for Earl Watson) are also in place, if the Olowokandi deal does not go through.
There's also talks about Marcus Banks going to one of the LA teams for a draft pick, if he isn't packaged with Mark Blount. The writing was already on the wall when we got to see Orien Greene play.
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Post by FLCeltsFan on Jan 18, 2006 7:54:04 GMT -5
Thought this was interesting from the Minneapolis Star Tribune.
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Post by FLCeltsFan on Jan 18, 2006 7:58:19 GMT -5
This from the Herald.... other deals beside the Kandi deal are on the table but Kandi for Blount 80%:
Ex Marks the spot -- Sources say Celts shopping Blount By Steve Bulpett Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - Updated: 07:02 AM EST
Mark Blount is still a Celtic. But you might want to keep checking back on that one. As of last night, no deal involving the Celtics center was in trigger-pulling range, but, according to a number of sources, there were several scenarios on the discussion table. A move to Minnesota may be the closest (one source placed the odds of Blount going for Michael Olowokandi at 80 percent), but Cleveland, Denver and Memphis are still very much in the picture. And now that things have gotten into the open, look for the process to gain speed. If there’s a deal here for the Celtics to make, they would like it to happen soon so the team can go about its business. Meanwhile, Blount’s agent was preaching caution. “I think there’s been a lot of talk,” Mark Bartelstein said. “A lot of teams have contacted the Celtics. But whether or not something’s going to happen is a big step from where we are now.” Marcus Banks is also involved at this point. If something were to happen with Cleveland, he would accompany Blount. Sources say Drew Gooden and Damon Jones have been discussed as a return. The Minnesota and Memphis deals would most likely be straight up for Olowokandi or Lorenzen Wright, respectively. Earl Watson would be the target if something gets worked out with Denver. Celtics director of basketball operations Danny Ainge wouldn’t comment on the specifics, offering a blanket observation as the clock ticks down toward the Feb. 23 NBA trade deadline. “Obviously we’re in a time where a lot of teams are discussing trades,” he said. “There’s a lot of talk that goes on, especially as the deadline gets closer. But it’s my experience that most of the conversations don’t lead to anything.” It seems, however, that the Celts are looking to make something happen to clear logjams and allow more playing time for their younger players. There would also be the desired benefit of removing a salary such as Blount’s, with the franchise looking more realistically now at a spring without home playoff game revenue. Banks probably won’t make it to unrestricted free agency as a Celtic. The club has reportedly been in talks with a few Western Conference teams (two of them in the same city — got it?) about a deal that would likely bring back a draft pick. With Delonte West exceeding expectations at the point and the club having obviously decided rookie Orien Greene is a better bet to succeed than Banks, there is little chance Banks would re-sign here as a free agent. He might have gotten his first inkling his future lay elsewhere when the club didn’t pick up his option for next season. Closer to the basket, Blount has played well at times this year, but Kendrick Perkins has shown that he is the toughest player on a team that is deficient in that quality. In addition to getting more minutes from him, the Celts are waiting to give more time, as well, to Al Jefferson, if he can give them a better and more consistent defensive effort. Blount didn’t seem fazed yesterday, but he didn’t answer a direct question on whether he’d rather stay a Celt or play elsewhere. “If I get traded, I get traded,” he said. “I mean, what can I do? There’s nothing I can do about it. Just go, move on, get ready to play with my new team and coaching staff. I can’t worry about that. If I get traded, I get traded. That’s it. I have no problem. It was great. Time to move on.”
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Post by The Eye of the Q is upon you! on Jan 18, 2006 8:22:16 GMT -5
I would love it if Drew Gooden came here - He is a good player. And all we need is Roy Williams to replace Doc Rivers and play 1/2 the home games in Lawrence, KS (so I can go baby-sit them).
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jan 18, 2006 10:58:37 GMT -5
Which trade sounds the best to you folks:
Blount to:
-Minny for Olowokandi
-Memphis for Lorenzen Wright
-Cleveland (along with Banks) for Drew Gooden and Damon Jones
-Denver for Earl Watson (possibly including other players on both sides)
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Post by esco33 on Jan 18, 2006 11:45:40 GMT -5
1. Blunt to Minny, Kandi to Boston – this deal is the most likely to happen. It opens up a lot more PT (hopefully) for Perk. For what we need, Olowokandi is a better fit for us than Blunt. We have enough scorers. We need rebounder/shotblockers. Kandi is real slow. I have seen him a few times this year, and he seems like he is walking/running in slow motion. I never remember him being that slow. Regardless, he would be a backup big guy to clog up the middle, grab a few boards, and block a few shots. I would not cut him. We should keep him for insurance. Like I said, for what we need out of our center, he is better than Blunt. Also great for salary purposes since Kandi is an expiring contract.
2. Blunt, Banks to Cleveland for Gooden, and Damon. – talent wise this is by far the best deal. Gooden is a potential double-double guy. (This would be a lot similar to the Antoine trade of last year in that we would be getting a bonafide starting power forward. But is that what we want? The whole purpose of this year (letting Toine walk) was I thought to free up PT for Perk and Big Al especially. That hasn’t happened so far. With this trade, it still wouldn’t happen. Doc wants to win now it seems, and Drew would instantly become the starting power forward. Damon (Mr. Kung Fu kick) I do not care for, and he would eat into Delonte’s minutes which I DO NOT want. With this trade we would contend in making the playoffs for sure.
3. Blunt to Memphis for Lo Wright – good for salary purposes as well. Wright is a rebounder/shotblocker, although I haven’t seen much of him this year, but I hear he is on the decline.
4. Blunt to Denver for Earl Watson – don’t like it. In the beginning of the season, I would have been for it, but with the recent play of Delonte, I would rather they make one of the other 3 deals.
Which one I am for? Not sure yet. I am sick of losing, and the Cleveland trade would definitely help us win a few more games. I doubt Gooden would be in our long term plans because we have Big Al. Damon Jones I do not particularly care for. The Kandi trade is the most probable for being completed. It gives us another true center in return who is better than Blunt for the things that this team needs (rebounding). He is an expiring contract which lets us clear cap space, and it also frees up PT for Perk to show what he can do for the rest of the year. I am leaning toward trade number 1, but would not be opposed to trade 2 or 3. Trade 4, I am not in favor of.
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Post by eja117 on Jan 18, 2006 14:20:29 GMT -5
I'd take whichever guy has the bigger expiring contract. I want Delonte annointed the starting pg. I don't think I want Gooden, and would rather draft a big man, but I'm not sure. If I didn't have to take Damon Jones and let him eat into Delonte and Oriene I'd have to think long and hard about it.
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Post by Ossric on Jan 18, 2006 15:08:41 GMT -5
somewhere i read that Memphis doesn't want to do a Wright for Blount trade, so i think we can skip this route. The Cleveland rumor doesn't sound very tempting to me cause Jones has 4 years left on his contract, Gooden 2. I'd rather have an expiring contract & focus on young talent.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2006 15:47:13 GMT -5
Gooden can rebound and have an inside presence that Blount doesn't provide (11.4 pts 8.7 rebs in 28 mins). Only problem I have with the cleveland trade is that Gooden will eat up pt at the pf position and limit the amount of time that Al will get at PF. Unless we're looking at Al and Perk at Center.
Djones = Back-up pg with a undeserving contract.
In other words, go trade with minny, Cut Kandiman, and lets move onto the future in the front court.
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Post by freshnthehouse on Jan 18, 2006 16:07:44 GMT -5
Gooden can rebound and have an inside presence that Blount doesn't provide (11.4 pts 8.7 rebs in 28 mins). Only problem I have with the cleveland trade is that Gooden will eat up pt at the pf position and limit the amount of time that Al will get at PF. Unless we're looking at Al and Perk at Center. Djones = Back-up pg with a undeserving contract. In other words, go trade with minny, Cut Kandiman, and lets move onto the future in the front court. I agree with JHVOS. Let the youngns play.
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Post by Roadrunner on Jan 18, 2006 16:11:14 GMT -5
Based on value alone, Gooden and Jones. This would help one of the team's issues...rebounding. AJ is not ready, neither is Perks. However, both should play over Blount/Raef.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jan 18, 2006 17:06:28 GMT -5
I don't like the Denver trade. I don't like the idea of getting Earl Watson. I was never a fan of Watson and especially now that Delonte and Greene are looking good, I have no reason to hope for Watson.
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