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Post by cf0022 on Jan 18, 2022 17:22:54 GMT -5
It's now about a month away. Doesn't mean we can't make deals in the interm either. C's like to wait as far as players that might fall through the cracks to improve a run they can get for cheap. This has been pretty standard the last several years under ainge. I think this team is capable as constituted through hard work and will be interesting how they play the next month or so. I wouldn't break up Brown and Tatum as I don't think it's necessary and they are more than likely the best players we can get for the present and the future but will be interesting how they play. If they continue to waffle I wouldn't be opposed to making a move for the future and trading off brown or Tatum really but there would need to be stipulations.
As far as players around the league I want. I really like Sabonis and have said that. I don't know who else really fits this team. Shroder and Horford and our young wings are our best assets to make a big move to compliment Tatum and Brown. But may be the best we can do honestly. Would I give up Brown for Sabonis? I don't know. That's about as much a coin flip as it gets for me.
What do you think? Lets get some brainiacs to do some work.
I don't think this team needs that much. I think they are more capable than they have been playing early in the year and it's about work and how they play like I said. They could use another piece sure. Horford is aging. Robert Williams still needs to improve and isn't untradeable either. I would hold onto Smart. I really don't see anything that would really improve us there in a trade. I think his value on the court is higher than it is in trades. I think sometimes it's to a detriment though because other players can get away with slacking off and not improving their defense themselves etc.... They expect Smart to do the dirty work because that's who he is. I think as a leader he's somewhat overrated. He's good at doing the dirty work.
Unless someone is going to offer us Bradley Beal for SMart etc, etc.. I don't know. This team has scorers.
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Post by cf0022 on Jan 18, 2022 17:31:34 GMT -5
I'd trade Smart and Horford for Sabonis right now on paper, but again it wouldn't be so much a no brainer as it seems. I think Horford does his job and is pretty underrated. Schroder and Horford works. I think this team is well built on paper. It's not overflowing with all stars but it's very good and players should be able to compliment each other well.
Ainge short changed this team somewhat how he built it like I've explained before. But not too bad. This team has one more allstar like Sabonis and it would be right about where it should be. Or Doncic and Gianis over Tatum and Brown.
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Post by freshnthehouse on Jan 18, 2022 17:51:08 GMT -5
I'd personally like to see the C's keep Tatum, Brown, RW, and a few of the guys on rookie deals, and then trade pretty much all of the vets that are under contract past this year. So that means move Smart, Richardson, Al, etc. I want us to clear enough cap room to make a run at Bradley Beal this off-season.
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Post by cf0022 on Jan 18, 2022 17:57:38 GMT -5
Beal, Sabonis, Tatum would be a goal scenario to me mainly beacuse I think Beal is better than Brown and Sabonis is better than Horford to put this team on that championship talent level. Tatum and Brown still need to grow and I'm not sure their upside is good enough. Smart to me is really an enigma. He's a good roleplayer to have on a championship level team like Dennis Johnson was to me although more a roleplayer. I don't like giving him up for that reason. Giving up Smart and Horford for Sabonis and then hoping Beal comes here or trading Brown for him is one thing.
I'd be more inclined to do that then trade off Brown or Tatum and rebuild with picks and through the draft at this point. Trading off Brown and Tatum for picks and trying to rebuild is a bit much. Unless we find michael jordan in the next 3 drafts that seems pretty sketchy.
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Post by cf0022 on Jan 18, 2022 18:12:39 GMT -5
IT's more symantics but we appear to be somewhat on the same page. I don't know. You are beating me in fantasy this week and that needs to change. Your team is scaring me somewhat.
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Post by cf0022 on Jan 18, 2022 23:51:06 GMT -5
And the Celtics have made the 1st trade of the season. www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3402510/bol-bol-is-a-boston-celticJuancho wasn't doing much to move the needle and we saved money. Bol Bol I always liked. Not bad Brad. I really am enjoying BRad the GM much more than I ever enjoyed Ainge the GM or Brad the coach. Brad has also proven he is capable of moving the needle a bit thus far. Ainge was very good borderline great and I don't question his picks overly or him as a basketball mind. But he drove me nuts on certain things mainly just the fact he wasn't Red Auerbach. I think I hated the media that era more and just that whole process of searching under every rock when the picks were pretty obvious to me. And the hype. That hasn't changed really. Brad is pretty smooth so far. I really liked Doc as a coach too. I like ime too. I can't complain about this team overly. We are going to get there eventually and it may be a matter of clearing space to bring in another piece. I don't know.
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Post by cf0022 on Jan 20, 2022 15:41:55 GMT -5
In other news the media is reporting Anthony Davis has been traded to us because they think this is a good idea. God help us all. I wouldn't be surprised if we are done honestly. But Brad Stevens probably isn't. I wouldn't be surprised if the AD situation in LA is a mess. I would avoid that really. They have us sending Smart, Jaylen, etc, etc. I hope Stevens hung up the phone and it's not even real anyways. hardwoodhoudini.com/2022/01/20/anthony-davis-boston-celtics-b-r-piece/I don't know if people from hardwood houdini come here but yeah. Media monetization at it's finest or lowest. Gary Tanguay much? Or the celtics broadcasts these days. Where's A Sherrod these days? Let me ask you this. Why would Davis suddenly be good here when he's having a great year statistically but the Lakers are not winning? W hen he has Lebron and "the best players money can buy". It's no different than the fox news or the "liberal" media with the fluff they all spin. Money is not everything. It's something. It's something of a problem for these people.
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Post by jrmzt on Jan 20, 2022 17:05:04 GMT -5
I suspect we do nothing much in the trade window. Not unless we see ourselves as contenders or close to one.
The one guy I'd be looking to target (if possible) is DeAndre Ayton. Suns didn't give him a max deal and now he'll be looking hard at his options.
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Post by cf0022 on Jan 20, 2022 17:44:03 GMT -5
I'm guessing we are done unless someone gives us something good for HOrford and Schroder or something great for Smart. I don't see anything like that materializing honestly. We could move Romeo and Nesmith for something better maybe. Romeo is kind of that enigma right now. He's not Rozier as it stands and may never be that. He's more a guard. I think Grant Williams and Pritchard stick because they are more part of the rotation and solid enough. Romeo or Nesmith we are still waiting on .
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Post by cf0022 on Jan 20, 2022 18:12:37 GMT -5
I would put Brown out there to see what we can get back. These rumors are just rumors though. But like say if someone wants to trade us Ayton for Brown those are things to listen to. Sabonis, Bam, Ayton. I don't think we are going to get any of them but for a big man I would be close to doing that. Davis isn't going to be traded here and seriously he would probably leave anyways.
We have Brown locked up long term. That's a thing to remember too. He and Tatum are pretty locked in with each other too. I wouldn't necessarily trade Brown for Sabonis. Ayton I'd be more inclined to but why would the suns trade him? It's apples and oranges. Where is the improvement? I don't know.
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Post by cf0022 on Jan 20, 2022 18:20:14 GMT -5
Davis is a great individual player. HE's not Kevin Garnett. He's in LA for a reason. I hope he stays there. Crazy..... Imagine this team trying to build around Davis in a short window. It's crazy talk. They are crazy out there in LA and in the media. Crazy for Coo Coo puffs or money and it's both. I nearly had a heart attack when I read that. lol.
I'm not saying I wouldn't do it either. It would just be one of the most shocking shifts and trades in NBA history. If it happens great but really it's unbelievable what some people will report if it doesn't.
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Post by cf0022 on Jan 20, 2022 18:50:03 GMT -5
Reasons for an AD trade is I don't think Brown and Tatum are that good. [HASH]2 even if Davis isn't Garnett the way the league is now it's somewhat plausible him and Lebron have a tiff and AD decides to come to Boston for a few years just to spite him. So if he did just to spite Lebron when the Celtics showed genuine interest before it's somewhat plausible in that regard. ANd if it means blowing it all up so be it. I don't think Tatum and Brown are that good.
It wouldn't be a KG situation to me though. It would be a crazy scramble to try to win a title in a very short window. The old NBA is dead that way. We are basically Portland otherwise. So I can see it. But the media are just utter sell outs.
It's not going to happen. These players can change teams so much there is a bout a 10 percent chance it might and actually work. Just because Lebron and AD had a tiff and they are that silly and that's entirely possible.
In other words it's status quo for fox news and the "liberal" media. They are right about 10 percent of the time. While they get richer and everyone else gets poorer for having to read that garbage.
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Post by jmost on Jan 20, 2022 18:53:06 GMT -5
I'd personally like to see the C's keep Tatum, Brown, RW, and a few of the guys on rookie deals, and then trade pretty much all of the vets that are under contract past this year. So that means move Smart, Richardson, Al, etc. I want us to clear enough cap room to make a run at Bradley Beal this off-season. With you all the way. Brown, Tatum and RWill are the only guys I really care about us keeping. Everyone else should be on the block. It's time to stop pretending this team is capable of going anywhere. Strip it down and rebuild it with better pieces.
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Post by cf0022 on Jan 20, 2022 19:07:21 GMT -5
I think Grant Williams, Pritchard, Bol Bol probably stick because I don't think we can move them for anything better. Maybe but I doubt it. Unless a team is looking to unload someone. Brown, Tatum probably stick too because it's the same deal. Nesmith and Romeo are really not that good right now. All these guys are on small deals as it is. So that leaves Horford, Shroder and possibly Smart. Robert Williams and Smart probably stick.
I think Beal and Sabonis are the most logical players available if we can get Sabonis for HOrford and Smart potentially. And trade Brown for Beal because Beal is Tatum's friend. Maybe we can keep Brown somehow and Beal will just sign here if we can clear enough cap.
Sabonis is not really necessary either. We most likely are looking to unload Horford and Shroder but their deals are expiring anyways. It makes no sense as it stands. We have cap potentially to sign Beal this offseason once Horford's deal expires and Shroder is not being paid much anyways and is on a 1 year deal. It would more about maneuvering so we can get enough cap to sign Beal or trade for him.
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Post by cf0022 on Jan 20, 2022 19:12:03 GMT -5
This team as it stands can go one of two ways. Either maneuver so we have cap to sign a free agent this offseason. Or make trades now and get those players now. IF we trade for Beal we can sign him to a contract vs having to sign him this offseason. Horford and Schroders contracts are expiring. Everyone else is already on rookie deals except Tatum, BRown, Smart and Robert Williams.
Beal is basically Ray Allen. AD is a monster. Eitehr way we are making trades this deadline or trying to maneuver so we have money to spend this offseason. Horford and Shroders deals are expiring regardless. Beal can be traded for then signed vs having to wait for example. It can go either way.
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