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Post by jmost on Jun 2, 2021 9:47:21 GMT -5
Initally I was a little shocked and thought "who's available who's better?"
But as I think a little more about it, maybe it's time for a new perspective. If we do have a new GM, I can only hope that it's someone who isn't so in love with our current players that he isn't willing to trade them. Maybe not having drafted a guy makes you less attached to him.
We have some vets who are NBA players but just not that good. Some young guys who are not NBA players. And some guys, both young and older, who are talented but can't seem to stay healthy. With a couple of exceptions who I want to give one more season (Robert and Romeo) we should look at getting rid of all of them.
If we can't unload Kemba's contract maybe we need to clear the decks for the free agent market in summer 2023, keeping only Tatum, Brown and guys on rookie contracts, and hope to land a big fish.
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Post by afceltic on Jun 2, 2021 11:04:09 GMT -5
Surprisingly it is Brad who is his replacement. We are now looking for a new head coach. Well the changes have started, hopefully he doesn't let his personal feelings for guys like Smart get in his way of getting rid of him.
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Post by afceltic on Jun 2, 2021 11:09:15 GMT -5
I guess I was right about how Brad was wore out coaching this team and I don't blame him. So the question is now how successful of a head coaching career did he really have? He was great for the most part until the ECF's where they couldn't get over the hump with last year's ECF's being the first one that he was favored in. They blew the first two games and the series. I want to say he had a successful head coaching career, but then you have the expectations of being a Celtic. I am really undecided at this point.
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Post by freshnthehouse on Jun 2, 2021 14:09:51 GMT -5
Gonna miss this crew, but i'm excited to see where things go from here.
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Post by jmost on Jun 2, 2021 15:26:09 GMT -5
Well, at least Brad comes in knowing what he's got with this roster, who works hard (both on their game and on the court) and who listens to the coach. He's smart enough to know that changes need to be made. Let's just hope he hasn't fallen in love with the wrong players.
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Post by eja117 on Jun 2, 2021 16:58:13 GMT -5
I don't think Brad can be considered a successful NBA coach.
When he basically had his most talent he got the least out of it.
This year he had 2 top 15 type guys, a functional Kemba, a rising R Will, a decent rookie, a decent vet, a top 10 defender, and then they got him Evan Fournier, and he couldn't do anything with it. He also had two recent top 15 picks that he failed to develop as well as another recent first.
He took that and got his players to tune him out and want to leave.
That's what he did.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 2, 2021 19:11:48 GMT -5
I think Brad does better with non-All-stars who play their tail off for him. When he has star players, I don't think he knows how to push them.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 2, 2021 20:04:58 GMT -5
I'm thinking we already know who our next head coach will be.
I doubt Ainge would step away if he didn't think the basketball operation side of the house is in good hands. And I don't think Brad steps away from head coaching unless he knew who his replacement will be, and he has the confidence in this person.
Thus, when this person had agreed to be head coach, Brad had peace to step into Ainge's spot, and Danny knew he could step away altogether.
My guess is it's someone from within. Maybe Evan Turner, maybe Kara Lawson.
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Post by jrmzt on Jun 3, 2021 5:17:14 GMT -5
I don't think Brad can be considered a successful NBA coach. When he basically had his most talent he got the least out of it. This year he had 2 top 15 type guys, a functional Kemba, a rising R Will, a decent rookie, a decent vet, a top 10 defender, and then they got him Evan Fournier, and he couldn't do anything with it. He also had two recent top 15 picks that he failed to develop as well as another recent first. He took that and got his players to tune him out and want to leave. That's what he did. In all fairness, Jayson had to deal with Covid and Jaylen was out for periods of time. Kemba is NOT functional..the guy shows up one in every ten or fifteen games. He is a point guard who doesn't run point and looks mostly for his own shot. The Time Lord also injury prone. And I've watched enough Marcus Smart to see that his defense comes in flashes. I mean we lost to the Nets who have 3 top 10 players of which I'd argue 2 of them (KD and Harden) are arguably top 4? Curry and Jokic being the other 2. Honestly..if this was the most talent that Brad has ever been given, even if Kemba wasn't always injured, then I still wouldn't take our roster over the likes or Embiid/Harris/Simmons or Giannis/Jrue/Middleton or Kyrie/Durant/Harden. Be honest, would you take Tatum/Brown/Kemba over any of the other 3? Heck would you take our roster over Trey/Bogdan/Collins/Capela/Hunter?
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Post by jmost on Jun 3, 2021 7:40:14 GMT -5
There was never a year in which Brad's roster was the best in the league. The years we lost in the ECF we were not good enough to win the Finals anyway.
The thing that signaled to me that something needed to change was that too often this year we just didn't seem to be playing hard consistently. I don't know why that was.
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Post by afceltic on Jun 3, 2021 12:08:25 GMT -5
There was never a year in which Brad's roster was the best in the league. The years we lost in the ECF we were not good enough to win the Finals anyway. The thing that signaled to me that something needed to change was that too often this year we just didn't seem to be playing hard consistently. I don't know why that was. I think it was some of the arrogance of Tatum thinking he is better than what he is mixed with Kemba bringing team morale down by either sitting out or playing like crap when he was actually active. I also think Smart has passed his expiration date as the "heart" of the team with his terrible offense. On top of that I think it is obvious that Brad lost the locker room and that is why he jumped at the opportunity to replace Danny as the GM.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 3, 2021 14:51:53 GMT -5
Lots of folks speculated that Brad lost the lockerroom, going back from last season.
That's now being reported from an ESPN insider.
If true, I wondet who tuned Brad out. What percentage of the team did that? Will those players remain on the team?
Was it so bad that the issue was irreconcilable?
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Post by jrmzt on Jun 3, 2021 15:17:05 GMT -5
Lots of folks speculated that Brad lost the lockerroom, going back from last season. That's now being reported from an ESPN insider. If true, I wondet who tuned Brad out. What percentage of the team did that? Will those players remain on the team? Was it so bad that the issue was irreconcilable? I actually think that a locker room needs both a coach and an alpha player who is bonded with that coach. Locker rooms may tune out their coach, but if an alpha is setting the tone and pushing the coach's plays and words, then the effect is doubled. Thats where I think Tatum wasn't as enthused about Brad.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 3, 2021 15:40:28 GMT -5
Lots of folks speculated that Brad lost the lockerroom, going back from last season. That's now being reported from an ESPN insider. If true, I wondet who tuned Brad out. What percentage of the team did that? Will those players remain on the team? Was it so bad that the issue was irreconcilable? I actually think that a locker room needs both a coach and an alpha player who is bonded with that coach. Locker rooms may tune out their coach, but if an alpha is setting the tone and pushing the coach's plays and words, then the effect is doubled. Thats where I think Tatum wasn't as enthused about Brad. Which begs the question, do the players listen to Tatum? Will they go to war for (with) him? Has he garnered their respect and loyalty? If he's the face of the franchise, the team needs to believe in him.
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Post by jrmzt on Jun 3, 2021 16:00:28 GMT -5
I actually think that a locker room needs both a coach and an alpha player who is bonded with that coach. Locker rooms may tune out their coach, but if an alpha is setting the tone and pushing the coach's plays and words, then the effect is doubled. Thats where I think Tatum wasn't as enthused about Brad. Which begs the question, do the players listen to Tatum? Will they go to war for (with) him? Has he garnered their respect and loyalty? If he's the face of the franchise, the team needs to believe in him. Makes me think of Bradley Beal. A guy who is capable of scoring 30+ every night, but his teammates don't exactly listen to him. He just looks more and more frustrated despite being excellent every night..and I've seen several clips where he is buried facedown watching his teammates fail. So what's the problem there? The problem is that a guy like Jordan or Kobe or Lebron isn't going to let their teammates fail. They'll get in their face and demand they step up. You just have to look at Kawhi...another top 10 player who doesn't speak up or impose his voice and will on his teammates. I think its down to the individual. The players respect Tatum as the 1st scoring option but not as their leader. Not yet anyway.
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