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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 14, 2019 1:08:11 GMT -5
From watching the Raptors win the championship against the Warriors, what did you learn about assembling a championship caliber team?
Here are a few of my observations:
-Speed doesn't take precedence over execution (don't need flashy players who can excelerate at warp speed. Patience and execution is better)
-Ball movement trumps iso ball
-You can win with a short, unathletic, slow footed, but rock solid rotation guy playing heavy minutes (talking about Vanvleet, not Lowry)
-Need efficient players who can score even when contested, who can attack the basket and not only settle for jumpers and three pointers
-Rebounding and defense go a long ways
-Need smart players who will not turn the ball over
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Post by eja117 on Jun 14, 2019 6:42:24 GMT -5
You don't need a super all star team. Helps if the other team has a key injury and some bizarre existential crisis.
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Post by jmost on Jun 14, 2019 8:43:30 GMT -5
Yeah, the Raptors deserve a lot of credit for what they accomplished, but I'm very confident that they would have gone down in 6 or fewer games if GS had a healthy squad, so I don't want to base my future on their success.
What I saw from TOR was a team that played really hard, played together, had a lot of parts that fit well together, didn't care who scored, and had one superstar who could get them over the hump.
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Post by jhvos7979 on Jun 14, 2019 12:30:52 GMT -5
It didn't hurt that Siakam took the next step as future all-star player which help that team tremendously. Without him stepping up, they wouldn't had the opportunity to win this year regardless with Kawhi on the roster. C's falter mostly due to chemistry issues and their young players not taking the next step in their development.
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Post by jmost on Jun 14, 2019 13:42:58 GMT -5
Siakim sometimes makes scoring look effortless. I could see him being at the superstar level in a few years.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 14, 2019 14:07:51 GMT -5
Siakim sometimes makes scoring look effortless. I could see him being at the superstar level in a few years. Don’t know if I’d go that far, but he is looking like a really good player for them. All-Star potential for sure.
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Post by jmost on Jun 14, 2019 14:18:43 GMT -5
Who would you rather have next year, Siakim or Tatum? I think I'd go with Siakim.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 14, 2019 15:39:44 GMT -5
Who would you rather have next year, Siakim or Tatum? I think I'd go with Siakim. Siakam took a huge leap in his development this year, and right now is the better player. Siakam is also 4 years older and has played 1 more year in the NBA than Tatum has. With that said, both are different types of players -- Siakam being 6'9" and built more for slashing and doing damage near the basket, while Jayson operates more from midrange and out -- but so far Tatum has had overall better numbers compared to Siakam in his first 2 years in the league (Tatum came in as a 19 year old, while Siakam was a 22 year old rookie). At the age of a college sophomore, Tatum averaged 15 and 6, and it was widely considered a disappointment.
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Post by Roadrunner on Jun 14, 2019 18:02:47 GMT -5
I learned that to beat a team, the other team can not mimic the other team and that team needs to excel in other areas to win. Congratulations Raptors, well done.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 14, 2019 18:36:56 GMT -5
You don't need a super all star team. Helps if the other team has a key injury and some bizarre existential crisis. Like what you said there, E. And JMost hit on it as well — maybe the Raptors don’t win if Durant and Klay are healthy. On the same line, maybe we win it all last year if Hayward’s ankle didn’t come off his leg. Or we win back in ‘09 if KG’s knee was good, or in ‘10 if Perk didn’t get hurt. Sometimes, being healthy is the biggest factor in winning a championship.
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Post by mev17 on Jun 15, 2019 0:54:37 GMT -5
I hope some of our players learned that you don't have to compulsively back up outside shots late in close games. After GS hit a big three to cut Toronto's 6 point lead in half and make it 108-105, Toronto posted up Siakim and he got tongue free throw line. 2 possessions later he drove the lane, stepped around Green and made a nice floater. Like Brad would say, they did not settle and looked for quality shots late in a big game.
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Post by afceltic on Jun 15, 2019 5:05:07 GMT -5
That is how you beat GSW, they are a soft team overall and teams get caught up trying to win a 3 point contest with them and that is rarely going to happen when you have KD, Klay and Steph when one or two missed shots can end up in a quick 9-12 point run for GSW. You have to grind them out of the building and your three point shots should mostly be assists form drives to the basket.
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Post by Roadrunner on Jun 15, 2019 21:50:08 GMT -5
I hope some of our players learned that you don't have to compulsively back up outside shots late in close games. After GS hit a big three to cut Toronto's 6 point lead in half and make it 108-105, Toronto posted up Siakim and he got tongue free throw line. 2 possessions later he drove the lane, stepped around Green and made a nice floater. Like Brad would say, they did not settle and looked for quality shots late in a big game. Consistent 2's, or getting to the line always trumps taking ill advised 3's.
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