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Post by jmost on May 7, 2019 15:30:35 GMT -5
I saw a brief clip of Jalen Rose saying Kyrie is done in Boston and his teammates will help him pack. True or False?
Frankly I have no idea what Kyrie is going to do. If money is the most important thing to him, he'll stay. If winning is the most important thing to him and he thinks he'd have a better chance by teaming up with KD somewhere else, he's gone.
I think the second part of the statement is more interesting. Would his teammates be glad to see him go? It wouldn't surprise me in the least.
It's pretty obvious that Jaylen's, Jayson's, Terry's growth as players has been slowed by playing with Kyrie. I also can't imagine it's much fun to play with a guy who is so full of himself, and doesn't really trust anyone else when games get tight.
As a fan, I hate iso ball. I want to see the ball move. Passing is my favorite part of the game. If this series continues along these lines and the C's lose in 5, do we really want to give this guy $37 million for the next 5 years? Do any of us see a team with Kyrie as the best player competing seriously for a title?
I guess I'm at this point. Either we're all in with him and Anthony Davis, or say goodbye to Kyrie and build around JB and JT, hoping that GH can come all the way back to help.
Speaking purely emotionally, I won't mind if I hear one day in July that Irving has signed elsewhere. More than winning, I want to LIKE my team.
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Post by Roadrunner on May 7, 2019 18:06:07 GMT -5
False. Danny is going to offer him a max contract, and I think money plus the current team will make him stay. As for his teammates, we do not know what is actually happening behind close doors.
I agree, I am also a fan of ball movement. Kyrie, by himself, can not compete for a title. There are only about half dozen players that can do that. That is the difference between a top 5 player, and a top 15 player. The latter needs help.
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Post by eja117 on May 7, 2019 20:15:34 GMT -5
Someone has to go. ASAP. There is no way Kyrie can coexist with some of these guys. To me the only reason we keep Kyrie is to put him with a major star and if that can't happen then he's gotta go now.
If I'm Danny I'm trying to pursue both KD and AD. They all gotta do what Bron's guys did in Miami and take less, but it could be done.
But the second it looks like that won't happen I'm booting Kyrie so hard his mom feels it
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Post by DERRENMATTS on May 8, 2019 15:58:39 GMT -5
Not sure who will be staying and who will no longer be in Boston next year, but this group isn’t Ubuntu. As Perkins commented, this team is missing togetherness. They haven’t jelled and aren’t unified.
The Bucks are.
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Post by Roadrunner on May 8, 2019 18:19:32 GMT -5
Not sure who will be staying and who will no longer be in Boston next year, but this group isn’t Ubuntu. As Perkins commented, this team is missing togetherness. They haven’t jelled and aren’t unified. The Bucks are. The irony is that both teams have about half the roster being a free agent. When I think about players on their contract year, aka mercenary.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on May 8, 2019 20:14:03 GMT -5
Or, Kyrie will be the one packing bags and dropping guys off at the curb.
Will be an interesting offseason (as usual for us Celtics fans). One thing is for sure -- we won't see this nucleus back again next year. At least one major player on this team will be gone (if not more).
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Post by jmost on May 8, 2019 21:24:34 GMT -5
If Kyrie isn't secretly injured there is no way I'm giving him a max contract. Let him walk if you can't swing a sign and trade. Keep Brown and Tatum, let Horford's contract expire after next season and rebuild using our draft picks. If Hayward comes all the way back, great. If not, he's gone after the 2020-2021 season, freeing up more cap space. Maybe Robert Williams will turn into something. Maybe TR3 can rediscover his game as a starter. I don't know. But I do know that this ain't working, and Danny needs to shake things up.
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Post by afceltic on May 8, 2019 21:48:44 GMT -5
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Post by Roadrunner on May 9, 2019 21:37:04 GMT -5
Kyrie's body language all series really bothered me. He looked like he had already checked out.
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Post by jmost on May 10, 2019 7:44:30 GMT -5
In the end, what we want, and what Danny wants to try to pull off, are not as important as what Kyrie wants to do. He has all the cards. Someone will pay him, so it's really going to be about where, and with whom, he wants to play.
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Post by FLCeltsFan on May 11, 2019 16:49:36 GMT -5
I think Danny is going to try to bring Kyrie back. As jmost said, it's going to be up to Kyrie as to what he wants. He was pretty divisive this season and he did look like he checked out after the first game of the series. He was terrible. And after shooting 4-22, for him to say he should have shot 30 shots because he is such a great shooter was even worse.
Perk was right. He's not a Batman. I really don't see us bringing in a batman and I don't see him wanting to be Robin again. He can easily blame the players around him for his failed leadership. In fact, he already did when he threw the young guys under the bus and then said he called LeBron to let him know how hard it is to lead when young guys don't follow.
After that, I don't think it would be easy for those guys to trust him and see him as a leader. He really wasn't a team player and I'm not sure he can be with this group after such a frustrating season.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 17, 2019 16:08:47 GMT -5
Wow, more stuff being unearthed. Kyrie knew from early in the season that he was ditching us and heading to NY (either Knicks or Nets). Actually, most folks in the game knew, which means our players knew. His heart was gone for most of the year, and yet he snapped at the media for asking him those questions.
Good riddance.
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Post by jmost on Jul 17, 2019 18:49:03 GMT -5
What a phony. We're so much better off without him.
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