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Post by mev17 on May 27, 2018 22:17:11 GMT -5
I know a lot of people will say we went far with our injuries, etc. But to me this was a huge choke job by a team that forgot how to play the game. Horrible shot selection and could not hit the side of a barn. Call me negative but I will feel the bitterness of blowing a trip to the finals more than any over achieving. Cleveland was there for the taking but we let them off the hook with yet another miserable offensive performance. They terribly underperformed tonight.
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Post by afceltic on May 27, 2018 22:24:05 GMT -5
I know a lot of people will say we went far with our injuries, etc. But to me this was a huge choke job by a team that forgot how to play the game. Horrible shot selection and could not hit the side of a barn. Call me negative but I will feel the bitterness of blowing a trip to the finals more than any over achieving. Cleveland was there for the taking but we let them off the hook with yet another miserable offensive performance. They terribly underperformed tonight. I totally agree with underperforming part, but to be fair we shot so many 3's because of how the game was being officiated. We were killing them in the paint but weren't getting any calls and the announcers tried to play it off as "great Cavalier defense" which doesn't exist. We only had 6 free throws going into the 4th quarter and they finally started to call it closer to fairly. Rozier/Smart/Brown killed us tonight with their terrible shooting. So all of this talk of max money Terry needs to stop as he is a bit player on a good team, not a starter by any means because he is too streaky of a shooter to get big minutes. He is one of those guys who need to shoot themselves into more minutes on a nightly basis. |
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Post by jmost on May 27, 2018 22:30:22 GMT -5
[/quote]I also am ok with adding in Brown with the Sacramento pick in a deal to KAT. We need more of a presence down low next year because Al is too soft and isn't a real center. Tatum is the one we keep if Minny asks for one of the two. [/quote]
Yup. I have been thinking that an interesting thread for the summer might be "who would you keep if you could only keep one, Jaylen or Jayson?". I think this game might have answered that question.
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Post by jmost on May 27, 2018 22:40:22 GMT -5
I don't feel our guys forgot how to play the game at all. Competed hard, good D, only 5 turnovers, but just couldn't hit open shots, especially in the second half.
I am in the opposite camp, mev17. I appreciate this team so much for all they gave us. So much more than anyone had a right to expect. This will always be one of my favorite Celtics teams, regardless of how it ended.
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Post by runrondo on May 27, 2018 22:50:50 GMT -5
I know a lot of people will say we went far with our injuries, etc. But to me this was a huge choke job by a team that forgot how to play the game. Horrible shot selection and could not hit the side of a barn. Call me negative but I will feel the bitterness of blowing a trip to the finals more than any over achieving. Cleveland was there for the taking but we let them off the hook with yet another miserable offensive performance. They terribly underperformed tonight. I totally agree with underperforming part, but to be fair we shot so many 3's because of how the game was being officiated. We were killing them in the paint but weren't getting any calls and the announcers tried to play it off as "great Cavalier defense" which doesn't exist. We only had 6 free throws going into the 4th quarter and they finally started to call it closer to fairly. Rozier/Smart/Brown killed us tonight with their terrible shooting. So all of this talk of max money Terry needs to stop as he is a bit player on a good team, not a starter by any means because he is too streaky of a shooter to get big minutes. He is one of those guys who need to shoot themselves into more minutes on a nightly basis. Agreed. I am glad this puts to bed any nonsense talk about TR being anywhere near Kyrie's level. It's just recency bias from a really good run. Rozier is a sixth man at best on a really good team. I'm not sure he'd ever be more although I guess he could prove me wrong. This also points to how big of an impact Hayward could have. How nice would it have been to have someone of Hayward's shooting or caliber in a game like this where our young guys couldn't hit a shot? It still hurts to lose this. We know how bad coming close feels whether due to injuries or not (every year KG/PP didn't win) - it almost would've been less hurtful if we just lost earlier, but that's just the pain talking. Let's focus on maximizing this bright future so we have many more years of glory. |
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Post by mev17 on May 27, 2018 23:39:51 GMT -5
I don't feel our guys forgot how to play the game at all. Competed hard, good D, only 5 turnovers, but just couldn't hit open shots, especially in the second half. I am in the opposite camp, mev17. I appreciate this team so much for all they gave us. So much more than anyone had a right to expect. This will always be one of my favorite Celtics teams, regardless of how it ended. I think part of what I am feeling is frustration building up over the years. We have won only one championship in the last THRITY-TWO years, which hardly classifies as elite. After winning their one title in 2008 under Doc Rivers, we lost a 3-2 series lead not only for the first time ever, but 3 times in 4 years, including the miserable 2010 finals where we gave the title away to the hated Lakers. Then this team not only blows a 3-2 lead for the 4th time in less than a decade, but becomes the first Boston team ever to lose a 2-0 series lead. We have become a franchise that finds ways to lose, and that can't close out a series after being in control. Milwaukee and Philly are NOT great, title-contending teams. Neither is this Cleveland team, yet we let ourselves get punked at home by a bad defensive team. To me there is no excuse for this loss, and it tarnishes anything they have accomplished. Until we actually win something, we are nothing but a bunch of wannabes and I am getting tired of losing playoff series we should win. |
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Post by Roadrunner on May 28, 2018 5:47:32 GMT -5
Disappointing. The game was lost when BOS shot 7-39, 17% from the 3-point area, which is half their playoff normal of 34%. The frustrating part was a lot of those misses were wide open, uncontested shots.
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Post by jmost on May 28, 2018 6:49:14 GMT -5
I don't feel our guys forgot how to play the game at all. Competed hard, good D, only 5 turnovers, but just couldn't hit open shots, especially in the second half. I am in the opposite camp, mev17. I appreciate this team so much for all they gave us. So much more than anyone had a right to expect. This will always be one of my favorite Celtics teams, regardless of how it ended. I think part of what I am feeling is frustration building up over the years. We have won only one championship in the last THRITY-TWO years, which hardly classifies as elite. After winning their one title in 2008 under Doc Rivers, we lost a 3-2 series lead not only for the first time ever, but 3 times in 4 years, including the miserable 2010 finals where we gave the title away to the hated Lakers. Then this team not only blows a 3-2 lead for the 4th time in less than a decade, but becomes the first Boston team ever to lose a 2-0 series lead. We have become a franchise that finds ways to lose, and that can't close out a series after being in control. Milwaukee and Philly are NOT great, title-contending teams. Neither is this Cleveland team, yet we let ourselves get punked at home by a bad defensive team. To me there is no excuse for this loss, and it tarnishes anything they have accomplished. Until we actually win something, we are nothing but a bunch of wannabes and I am getting tired of losing playoff series we should win. I just don't see it that way. We lost the 3-2 lead over the Lakers when Perk blew out his knee in Game 6. We lost to the Heat when they were favored, the better team, and had the best player. A win in that series would have been an upset. We lost this year because we were missing two All-Star scorers and couldn't score. Young teams go through this. The Pistons were better than us in 1987 but hadn't learn how to win. They lost Game 5 on Bird's steal and Game 7 when two of their guys banged heads. Then they lost the next year to the Lakers and probably were better than them too. They had to learn to win. Not every loss is a choke job. |
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Post by eddietours on May 28, 2018 7:28:18 GMT -5
it was just a Bad night i trust Danny
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Post by eddietours on May 28, 2018 7:37:14 GMT -5
we should had gone iso with tatum the last 6 minutes
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Post by jmost on May 28, 2018 8:24:27 GMT -5
Yup. He was the only one making shots in the fourth. We didn't do a good enough job of finding the hot hand.
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Post by eddietours on May 28, 2018 8:29:56 GMT -5
i feel like crap but looking at Hayward telling Tatum we will be back made me smile
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Post by eja117 on May 28, 2018 11:15:58 GMT -5
You can't leave it within the margin of error of the refs like that. I feel like the refs handed it to the Cavs but if I were a Cavs fan I'd never agree to that at all. I'd be like "Really? You mean like when they didn't call a foul on Tatum after he chest bumped and clearly taunted James? Or like when they called no foul on Morris when he threw Thompson to the ground? Did the refs make you miss all those shots?"
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Post by Roadrunner on May 28, 2018 11:45:40 GMT -5
You can't leave it within the margin of error of the refs like that. I feel like the refs handed it to the Cavs but if I were a Cavs fan I'd never agree to that at all. I'd be like "Really? You mean like when they didn't call a foul on Tatum after he chest bumped and clearly taunted James? Or like when they called no foul on Morris when he threw Thompson to the ground? Did the refs make you miss all those shots?" This was probably my first game ever watching the C's sober (I was road racing today), so I remember the details of the game better. BOS had some very good looks shooting. There many shots that rattled in, and out. Did I think the refs were bad? Absolutely, however not one sided bad, just bad in general. Some examples - (CLE) James blocking Rozier III was a foul (he blocked the shot, and blocked all his arm); (BOS) Smart tried to block James, which was "and 1", however made contact to James' head (that is a flagrant); (CLE) Morris held James by the arms, which was another "and 1" (and another flagrant); (BOS) almost every Jayson Tatum drive to the basket, which me made most of them, there was contact (no fouls what so ever). If BOS shoots their normal 3 PT %, 34%, this game was over. This team over achieved, however losing to CLE in 7-games hurts (almost like a lose to LAL). |
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