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Post by jmost on Jul 10, 2017 17:22:19 GMT -5
When AB was hurt last year, Jaylen got the starts at SG. Now that AB is gone, why not the same thing, with GH and Jae at the forwards and Al at C? I think you want to play your best players, and I don't see Baynes, Zizic or anyone else breaking into the starting lineup. I like Tatum coming off the bench as that group will need a scorer.
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Post by Roadrunner on Jul 10, 2017 18:05:23 GMT -5
Remember, starting and finishing the game are not always the same. Generally, finishing is a top-5 team player, however different opponents will off different challenges, which may require 1, maybe 2 players to be switched (aka match-ups).
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 15, 2017 21:55:43 GMT -5
We've seen a bunch of transaction finalized at last this week. As of July 15, this is how we look, according to Brad's structure:
Ball handlers:
IT, Smart, Rozier
Wings (SG and SF):
Hayward, Jaylen, Tatum
Swings (SF and PF):
Crowder, Morris, Semi, Nader, Theiss
Bigs (PF and C):
Horford, Baynes, Yabusele, Zizic
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Post by afceltic on Jul 16, 2017 4:14:01 GMT -5
I sure would like another experienced big. But maybe the season will give the young guys the experience they need to start to dominate the East after LeFlop leaves the Cavs after this season.
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Post by FLCeltsFan on Jul 16, 2017 11:18:19 GMT -5
We've seen a bunch of transaction finalized at last this week. As of July 15, this is how we look, according to Brad's structure: Ball handlers: IT, Smart, Rozier Wings (SG and SF): Hayward, Jaylen, Tatum Swings (SF and PF): Crowder, Morris, Semi, Nader, Theiss Bigs (PF and C): Horford, Baynes, Yabusele, Zizic What is nice is that we have some of the other positions that can also handle the ball and would be comfortable bringing it up court and starting the offense. Horford, for one, is great at that. Hayward, Jaylen, Tatum, Crowder, Nader would all be able to bring the ball up without giving anyone a nervous condition. That goes with the versatility that Brad keeps talking about. |
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Post by Roadrunner on Jul 16, 2017 13:35:54 GMT -5
Brad definitely stresses versatility. Being able to play more than one position effectively.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Aug 3, 2017 17:28:52 GMT -5
My line up is as below: 1 - Isaiah 2 - Smart 3 - Hayward 4 - Crowder 5 - Horford I think Smart ends the starting spot for now because he helps cover for IT's defense. Brown will see alot of time as a backup at both the 2 and 3 spots and I expect Tatum to see time as well in the 4 spot. Chances are that if Brown is on the court at the 2 spot, Rozier will be at the 1 and Tatum at the 4. This then allows for Rozier to provide the defense, Brown the energy and Tatum as an upgrade on Crowder's offense to keep the balance going. Initially, your starting lineup is definitely what Brad Stevens start the season with. By the season end, I'm hoping the starting lineup end-up being the following: 1 - IT 2 - Brown 3 - Hayward 4 - Tatum 5 - Horford Both Brown/Tatum are too talented to not take most of the minutes away from Crowder and Smart at those spots. Don't know how soon Brown and Tatum will be ready to start, but that is an intriguing lineup. All 5 guys can handle and pass the ball, and score in various ways. Tatum has low post moves, so him at the PF spot offensively doesn't bother me -- but defensively, he might get pushed around. |
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Post by jmost on Aug 3, 2017 20:02:26 GMT -5
I was reading somewhere that Baynes signed with the Celtics partly on the hope of more playing time than he got last year (15 MPG). I strongly doubt that he got any kind of promise, but something in his conversations with the C's, maybe about how Brad saw using him, gave him hope. So I'm going to say that he starts at center, next to Horford at PF. Then you obviously have IT at PG and Hayward as one of the wings. I like Smart coming off the bench as the backup PG more than I like him starting. So it's Brown, Crowder or Tatum as the other wing. I like Tatum on the second unit for now as someone who can create offense, given Smart's limitations. So it's either Brown or Crowder and I'm going with Brown, because I don't want Brown and Tatum on the court together too much to start the year.
Baynes
Horford
Hayward
Brown
IT
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Post by jhvos7979 on Aug 4, 2017 12:12:41 GMT -5
Initially, your starting lineup is definitely what Brad Stevens start the season with. By the season end, I'm hoping the starting lineup end-up being the following: 1 - IT 2 - Brown 3 - Hayward 4 - Tatum 5 - Horford Both Brown/Tatum are too talented to not take most of the minutes away from Crowder and Smart at those spots. Don't know how soon Brown and Tatum will be ready to start, but that is an intriguing lineup. All 5 guys can handle and pass the ball, and score in various ways. Tatum has low post moves, so him at the PF spot offensively doesn't bother me -- but defensively, he might get pushed around. I'm sure against traditional teams whom have PF/C combo this team will have some difficulties defending against some of those bigger rosters. I just see minutes being available at the PF spot as its not exactly one of the stronger positions on roster outside of Horford. If both Brown/Tatum can get some significant minutes this year would be a huge win for this team. Of course not at the cost of winning ball games. |
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Post by Roadrunner on Aug 6, 2017 12:13:07 GMT -5
Brown will get more minutes when he moves without the ball, and penetrates the paint.
Tatum will earn his minutes through scoring, however I would not be surprised if Brad pulls him from the game if he goes ISO with players open. In summer league, there were a lot of players wide open when Tatum was getting ready with his moves.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Aug 7, 2017 19:30:02 GMT -5
Maybe the most probable lineup we will see is:
IT
Jaylen
Hayward
Crowder
Horford
When Bradley went down last year, it was Jaylen (and not Smart) who got the starting nod. Plus, with this lineup, Jaylen gives us a boost of athleticism.
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Post by Roadrunner on Aug 9, 2017 18:16:51 GMT -5
IT-Hayward-Horford is a given. The next two spots, could be any combination of Smart, Crowder, Brown or Tatum. The staff loves Smart. Crowder is a known with issues. Brown, and Tatum are upside potentials.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Aug 10, 2017 0:13:10 GMT -5
I would think we need more speed and athleticism in the starting 5 after losing Bradley, so Brad may elect to go with Jaylen. Plus, we're grooming Smart to run the offense, which makes more sense if he's coking off the bench to replace IT at the 1.
But who knows? Statistics may show that we're much better with Smart starting at the 2.
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Post by Roadrunner on Aug 12, 2017 10:06:52 GMT -5
Last year, Stevens mentioned several times that Smart was the 6th man. Less disruption to the core, plus Brown is not a 6th man (can not create his own shot).
Fans equate 5 best guys as the starters, however it is not always exact.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Aug 23, 2017 19:45:31 GMT -5
Ok, time to revisit this thread, since we subtracted 2 former starters.
Will Kyrie start at the 1 or 2? If at the 2, I can see Marcus Smart starting at PG.
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