Gotta get another top 10 pick

[DERRENMATTS]

Somehow, someway, Danny has to get another top 10 pick, and use it to draft Doug McDermott.

Doug won't be a Big 3 guy, he won't be the team's leading scorer, but rather an important role player. A key role player. A vital role player.

[cfoo]

I like McDermott as a player the issue I have with him is he is too good to be a backup and not good enough to be a fulltime starter although could be wrong there. He's wally szerbiak to me. Not a great defender but can score in a variety of ways. With the nba the way it is is there a place for Doug McDermott?

[cfoo]

what I like about McDermott is his mindset. You know what you are going to get with him although some nights he's just going to stink it up like Wally would do sometimes. Shot isn't falling or whatever. Sometimes he's going to just bring it and you are like doug McDermott can't be contained. lol. But ultimately he's a guy who is going to give you points in a variety of ways most nights.

Levine to me in comparison reminds me a little bit like a cross between Austin Rivers and Green from san Antonio. There are some good roleplayers later . Is it worth moving up to get a guy like McDermott or Stauskis over a guard who may slide? We might have to move up though with our 2nd pick.

I think McDermott is definatel ya guy who can put up points. Where at 17 we are going to be looking at more secondary roleplayers. McDermott could be a starter. He's I n between. He's a 6th man or a 4th or 5th guy on a starting roster. Levine to me is different and more like Danny Green possibly. He has a ways to go though and is very young. McDermott should contribute right away. and be more an impact player offensively.

We have KO though. I don't see us taking McDermott because of KO....

[cfoo]

If we are trading Green and McDermott is going to be a starter in a platoon at sf that's different. He seems like a guy who has to play minutes though and be an integral part whether that's as a starter or a 6th man.

[kval1441]

I would be so dissapointed if we wasted a top 15 pick on McDermott.

[DERRENMATTS]

You'll get over it when you see that McDermott finishes his career as one of the top 10 players drafted in 2014.

[cfoo]

Jun 14, 2014 21:05:40 GMT -5 kval1441 said:

I would be so dissapointed if we wasted a top 15 pick on McDermott.

I kind of agree with this. McDermott may find himself down the bench at first and develop. He's more developed than that though. He's better than luke harongody though but could end up struggling finding a role in the nba. I don't think he is as good as Szerbiak. Szerbiak was an allstar and a really good player. A poor version of that might struggle to find a nitch. He could make an excellent roleplayer but might be overrating him in that regard.

What I l ike about him is he appears to be a smart player though. I think he'll do well. SA has guy slike this in ways. Players who just play smart. Utah does as well though and they struggle to gel. Players like hawes etc. Good solid player but they struggle to find a nitch on top teams. Hawes has never really had that opportunity either but I've never been a huge fan of his. Solid player though. I don't know ultimately. McDermott is an interesting case.

Stevens could see things differently. he had some players that were unorthodox at Butler. I could see him in particular liking McDermott. McDermott has a solid offensive game already and plays smart. He just strikes me as a solid player. Limited upside. Utah has a lot of these guys who just know how to play the game but they also aren't very good because they hae a lot of guys like this and are young, need to develop chemistry etc... They are also lacking those other guys.

[nateval]

I'm not on the McDermott bandwagon I would pass on him. IMO McDermott is already developed you have a good idea of what he is going to be just like Payne. McDermott is 22 I want to take a swing at someone that could develop into a star. LaVine is 19 Gordon is 18 Vonleh is 18 what are these players going to look like when they're 22. Not saying that I want one of those three but what I want is a potential star I don't believe McDermott is that. McDermott is still a bit of a tweener for me too. Is he quick enough to go up against athletic SF's? He's 6'8" 218 is he strong enough to bang with PF's? DM you as well as most draft experts are high on McDermott but if you envision him as a role player that's not what this team needs.

[DERRENMATTS]

Every team needs knock down shooters and scorers. McDermott gives you that plus solid rebounding. High character guy who hustles and plays smart.

His ceiling may not be high, but his floor is not low either.

Zach LaVine on the other hand has a higher ceiling, but he's got a bigger bust potential.

[cfoo]

I like how McDermott plays. He hustles and plays hard like you say. He can go into beast mode too sometimes. I don't think Levine has the intangibles McDermott does. Lavine is your prototypical new good athlete and shooter. These guys are becoming too predictable in ways. I think they will succeed. I think both are ultimately just solid players though. Completely different skillsets. Lavine is more a sg. McDermott is a SF. Both are fringe starters. Lavine could end up being better than that but so could McDermott for all we know right now. Both nitch players in ways. I think each could potentially thrive in a role.

[cfoo]

They are both kids ultimately. I think McDermott is a bit more mature but who knows. Lavine seems like a typical whatever he is. McDermott is kind of a meathead himself though. He plays hard. Most of these guys seem dedicated and looking to succeed. Are surrounded with the right people etc.

Most of these kids are very lucky and chose the right profession it seems like. Are all getting molded differently than plaeyrs way back. I think they are somewhat coddled though. That's why you don't see guys like Magic and Bird anymore who were self made players. A lot of these guys come out of a mold. They have a body type or skillset and have learned the correct moves for their body type. I see a lot of players that are all the same though.


Marcus Smart for example comes across as a leader and guy you want to play for. He also has ridiculous athleticism but it's like they are trying to all attain perfection. There are no more larry birds or magic johnsons who didn't fit that cloth and had intangles and the ability to create and feel their way through games like other players couldn't.

These guys are like video game basketball at this point. Have to improve t hrough repetition and get stronger etc but what you see is what you get.

there aren't any more paul pierce's either.

[nateval]

Jun 15, 2014 20:08:34 GMT -5 DERRENMATTS said:

His ceiling may not be high, but his floor is not low either.

Zach LaVine on the other hand has a higher ceiling, but he's got a bigger bust potential.

Yep which is why is why I want to go for the higher ceiling guy. Good players have been drafted all throughout the draft. I have faith that DA, Stevens and the staff can find talent. I'm watching a changing of guards now in San Antonio. Leonard was the 15 pick just a few years ago. He has been in the league 3 years and is only 22 same age as McDermott is now. The Celtics need a star I don't care if we pick them at 6 or 17. McDermott IMO is worth more to a team that's closer to competing.

[cfoo]

Lavine can be a starter and a very good one at SG the way the nba is now. We see guys like this who can shoot and have athleticism do very well. I think Lavine is one of those guys. He's pretty much what Austin Rivers should have been. He's more a pure sg and can slash to the basket. Rivers is lacking that quickness to get to the rim and finish. Lavine is very smooth getting to the rim and finishing because of his athleticism. As he grows and gets stronger he will be good.

[freshnthehouse]

I think McDermott has the chance to be a very good pro, but i dunno if he'd crack my top 10 picks for the C's in this draft. That is more of a praise of this draft than it is a knock on McDermott.

[DERRENMATTS]

At 10 and beyond, it becomes more about finding a good fit and contributor for your team than it is finding a gem.

Your looking at Stauskas, McDermott, and Harris at the 9 - 12 range, unless of course you're going to put LaVine and Elfrid Payton in the mix. But I see McD and Staus as guys who are more likely to be solid contributors.