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Post by Celtic17 on Aug 27, 2005 23:44:13 GMT -5
That's the moment I was thinking about too... That is the kinda player I want. I really like Mt Perk because of this. Enforce Mister P...
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Aug 27, 2005 23:55:34 GMT -5
He can reduce his touchy fouls by staying on his feet more. Pump fakes get him too often.
Also, because our defense requires the Center to go out and cover the PG after the switch off a pick, and then sprint back to cover his own man (who is now roaming into the paint), Perkins is asked to do a lot of running and recovering his position in the paint, which is not really easy for big guys his size and weight. That's why sometimes he has to resort to Ole' defense, where he just swipes at the ball, or the player slashing to the basket, instead of being in position to make the player alter his shot.
Either Perkins gets efficient at this type of defense, where he's covering a lot of ground in a blink of an eye, or Doc alters the defensive strategy so that Perkins (or Raef) won't have to be out of place so often.
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Post by meltinjohn on Aug 28, 2005 20:24:32 GMT -5
I still remember in Game 7 of the Indiana series, when the game was all but lost for us, and Delonte and Gill get into a mini scuffle, Perkins comes running over and just abrubtly brushes Gilll back about 6 feet as if it was his job to protect his teammate. It was uncalled for, but it makes you see how much of a big brother type of role Perkins wants to play. Perkins I think is a great kid. He wouldn't have done that gm 7 shove in a crucial game situation with the game on the line. Boston was well losing. And yea, I noticed he was being the protector. Not to mention, it was West that Eddie Gill was giving trouble and you just know how these young guys are looking out for one another. Reed also got ejected that game.
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Post by Celtic17 on Aug 28, 2005 21:02:22 GMT -5
You watch my back, I'll kick theirs... I like it. Like a little brother.
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Post by BCHISTORIAN on Aug 29, 2005 1:24:55 GMT -5
personally i expect big improvement from perk this season. mentally as well
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Aug 29, 2005 2:57:31 GMT -5
personally i expect big improvement from perk this season. mentally as well I'd like to see that. It'll be awesome if Perkins develops into the stud Center we are currently looking for. And by stud, I mean a guy who rips down 10 - 12 boards a game, blocks 2 - 3 shots per game, and throws down 2 putback dunks per game. At this point, I don't feel that his game is evolved enough to be this studly. But he can change my mind by proving me wrong on the court.
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Post by BCHISTORIAN on Aug 29, 2005 5:01:44 GMT -5
he's till very young although he seems to be here forever. when he was drafted we were told that it could take 3-4 years for him to realize his potential. he has been here 2 years only, there's still time...
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Post by meltinjohn on Aug 30, 2005 1:30:29 GMT -5
Of course theres still time. Look at how long it took Ben Wallace and Big Ben went to college for awhile and went undrafted plus his first 2 yrs in the league were hell. Theres surely hope for Perkins.
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Post by BCHISTORIAN on Aug 30, 2005 3:04:56 GMT -5
definitely, definitely. i still have very big hopes for perkins. i like his blue-collar attitude.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Aug 30, 2005 3:20:52 GMT -5
But Big Ben has a lot more athleticism and agility than Perkins. That helps him be the defensive presence he is today. And this is the part of Perkins' game that holds me back. I really like his work ethics, his mean attitude, and his strong body. But his lack of athleticism and strong agility may hinder him from being a stud defensive player like Ben Wallace.
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Post by BCHISTORIAN on Aug 30, 2005 3:29:13 GMT -5
never know. ben wallace wasn't even good player when he came to the league. he has worked himself up the food-chain. hopefully perkins will do the same. in his own way
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Aug 30, 2005 3:41:28 GMT -5
It seems as though Ben Wallace was having a hard time sticking in the league because they were playing him at wrong positions. With us, Carr tried to make him play SF.
But I'll do my best to give Perkins the benefit of the doubt. With Perkins and Gerald Green being the apparent future stars, we don't need a star at C. If we all cross our fingers and eyes, maybe Perkins can fit the bill, and be a strong rebounder and shot blocker.
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Post by Jambr380 on Aug 30, 2005 20:09:10 GMT -5
DM, I think you meant Jefferson and Green being the future stars, not Perkins and Green...as for Perk being another Ben Wallace, that just won't happen. He is a totally different player. It does not mean he will be worse (although it is hard to project Perk being as good as Big Ben), just means he will have a very strong game. He probably has a good career as a back up center, but as of right now, his potential is pretty limited because of that agility thing...unless he becomes another Shaq.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Aug 31, 2005 2:00:53 GMT -5
Yep, I just caught that mistake as I was reading the post through. Meant to say Jefferson and Green.
I also have a pretty high opinion of Tony Allen. I think he has enough skills to be a pretty darn good player--but that's only if he can nail his jumpers consistently. I'm hoping that we can have a trio of really strong players, and Allen could possibly be that third wheel.
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Post by meltinjohn on Aug 31, 2005 21:52:48 GMT -5
Perkins and Big Ben won't be as alike as some may think. I see more offense out of Perkins if he lives up to his potential like around 13-14ppg. He wouldn't lead the league in rebounding either or blocks but hed get 6 or 7 a game maybe. Sounds more like Lorenzen Wright to me.
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