Bob Sura

[cfoo]

I read a rumor where Walker may be headed to houston for a 1st round pick. Not sure if there is any truth to it, but maybe Bob Sura would be included in the deal. There were rumors Ainge was looking into aquiring last offseason if im not mistaken. Sura is pretty good albeit inconsistant and oft injured.

[BCHISTORIAN]

well now that stromile signed with houston we can kiss good-bye to all walker-to-houston ideas. new york remains the most viable option for toine. looking at the mle's stro and sar (njn) got i wouldn't surprise if walker got the same

[DERRENMATTS]

Wasn't it Brent Barry who Ainge was coveting last summer? Might have been Sura, can't remember.

Well, he's not a guy I'm dying to get, but we could do a lot worse than Sura. If Sura comes, Delonte has a good shot at the starting spot.

[meltinjohn]

Sura would be good for next year I think. He can play pg and sg. And yes,now that SAR accepted the mle plus a lesser role, Walker has to do the same now for any team to want him.

[eja117]

I am having a hard time understanding why DA keeps trying to get mediocre players. Isn't Scalabrine enough? Its not like football where you need a lot of players and depth. There's only 12-15 spots. The only value I see in a Sura is shoing young players the way. The way to be mediocre.

[meltinjohn]

Yea like when Ainge went after GP (near like the sura situation). The old GP was a mediocre PG. As mediocre as the day was long. But Scalabrine was a tad better than mediocre I thought. The money is cheap for him too. Eja like they say, Ainge can draft but for FA or trades for other veterans, he hasn't made the best decisions. The Ricky trade however did work out. And trades that included picks but anything with a veteran is usually not a good trade for Danny Ainge. The trades only looked good because a pick was involved in a lot of them. The Ricky trade was the only trade that was good without a pick involved.

[eja117]

It's like when he trades he trades for prospects like he's trying to prove his genious like he does when he's drafting. You don't use trades like the draft, You don't trade proven players for prospects and you don't sign mediocre players when you have good young ones. You try to get other GMs to trade their proven players for unproven players. I kinda think DA's hands are just tied by our salary situation. Maybe he's trying to dump salary so if he trades our overpaid and underproductive players for cheaper shorter contract players that don't wow me I don't mind, but other than that try to bring it impact players. Like who would you rather have. Scalabrine and nobody for 2 mill? Or the best player in Europe (Jasikevicus) at a position of need for 4mill? It's a mid level EXCEPTION. Use it. If you can use a mid level to get an about mid level guy use it. Don't split it between 2 mediocres when you have young prospects.

[eja117]

I meant if you can use a mid level to get an above mid level guy use it.

[Jambr380]

very good insight eja and meltin. I hope DA is smart enough to just take Antoine for 3 yrs and let him take all the heat for the next few years. It is clear the scalabrine move was a BIG mistake. He is no prospect. He is not getting any better. And he is no Antoine Walker(or SAR for that matter). DA has drafted very well. I am ecstatic with our future, but he has been a mess with trades and veterans. I totally agree with the last couple of posts. If he would just stop trying to be a "genius" and be logical about decisions, things would fall into place a lot better.

[DERRENMATTS]

I believe Ainge brought in Brine as a guy who'll be a solid backup big man. Al Jefferson is already penciled in as our future starting PF, so grab Brine now and let him perfect his role so that when Jefferson is ready to explode, we'll already have our PF rotation in place. Walker and Raef are not in our long term plans, so Ainge went ahead and grabbed a young guy who still has some potential in him, who will be around when the crop of young guys are ready to take the lead roles.

I certainly would like to see Ainge find magic via free agency and trades. So far, they've been marginal, aside from getting Ricky Davis. He's gone through Mike James, Jumaine Jones, Chucky Atkins, and Tom Gugliotta. He's tinkering cheap players who may turn out to be gems, but it hasn't panned out too well. He did make attempts to go after bigger names like Malone and McDyess, but hasn't been able to land a premier free agent yet.

[meltinjohn]

Yea also add Jiri to that list of cheap players who may have turned into gems but panned out to be nothing. If Ainge even has more money to spend down the line, I just wonder who he would get. Would he sign a mistake or a player who would deserve the money? I say I don't really know. But he can draft well and we have to look at that.

[celtics4ever]

I liked Scala's game when he came out of college. He is not as good as Twon talentwise but he plays hard and gives a good effort. He will set a good example to the lads I think and be a good practice player and may surprise some.

Sura has never really impressed me. He isn't a very good shooter for one.

[meltinjohn]

Agreed. Talentwise is nothing compared to Walker but Scala can do what our team needs. Garbage play. Walker can't change his role to doing that.

[DERRENMATTS]

I'm happy with the Scalabrine acquisition. I'm confident that he will be used more than Googs was last year. Scalabrine is better suited off the bench than Googs was, and his motor keeps moving--unlike Googs'.

[eja117]

I think Googs was fine for the Celts. He made the minimum, filled out the roster, and was a vet. Then was ok trade bait. Scala is kinda a young that. Don't be shocked if he's traded.