You know who Gomes reminds me of?

[cfoo]

It just hit last night when I was watching fsn's recap of the summer league and they were interviewing GOmes and Green. At first I kind of compared him to MAlik Rose with an outside shot, ERic Williams before the knee problems, but it's ultimately Shawn Marion. He really has the same tools as someone like Marion. Has an nba body, really savvy in the post, excellent rebounder, needs to learn to trust his outside shot more. He might not be as good as Marion defensively or as athletic, but how he lasted to 50 is beyond me. Steal of the draft. Green actually said during the interview how Gomes wasn't a lottery pick is beyond him....... One other interesting that came across in the interview was how Gomes was playing the role of teacher to Green and kind of sounded like Ewill. It's an interesting thing when you have a rookie playing the role of teacher. I would be concerned but he actually sounded pretty mature. College did him good.

[eja117]

I can see that comparison

[cfoo]

The thing is he fits a need on this team as well. The C's were looking for a big 3 that could potentially slide between the 3 and 4 and they got a good one imo. Plus he seems to be a well learned guy that is going to fit in well here from a chemistry standpoint.

[meltinjohn]

This is too damn shocking. This player slid to 50 and he has the tools of an Eric Williams or a Marion already? He should have been a top 15 pick? So funny. I have to recheck where he was projected in the draft again. After all, him sliding to 50 is beyond me. My guess is all the hs'ers that came out that went ahead of him.

[Celtic17]

Meltin-
I think they had Gomes as mid to late 1st round, at worst early 2nd. If I remember right...

CF00-
The nice thing is we have two guys that could be the big 3 Ainge wants. Reed and Gomes. The best part of it is the competition they might have to earn minutes. I would say Reed has a slight edge right now, being in the system last year might help him.

[cfoo]

Gomes seems like one of those guys that will produce no matter what. I don't really care where he slid to. Both him and Reed are showing they belong so far. The tough part is going to be finding time for these guys.

[Celtic17]

cf00 said:

The tough part is going to be finding time for these guys.

That's a welcome problem, for the most part. I just hope they don't get discouraged in the process.

[ferbo]

The new CBA with the 14-man roster and no IR couldn't have come at a better time. Wikll make it easy to stick a kid in on a given night of a blowout---one way or the other.

Every report on every game that I have seen says Gomes was one of the better players. I WONDER if Doc might start either Gomes or Reed at the 3, with PP at the 2. Kind of like a Rambis role, although with more talent. Davis is first man in at either the 2 or 3. Allen gets some minutes at the 2 and MAYBE the Gomes/Reed who doesn't start gets some minutes.

That would juggle 5 men at the 2-3, not just 3. And some of them have very different skills. Allen could be in there in a rpessing situation. Maybe Gomes in a half-court situation where his ability to work around the net would be good.

Green will get scraps. Given his perceived promise, I don't see DA sending him to the NBDL. He is going to want him to stay close under foot where someone(s) can work with him daily---on physical development and skill development. From what I recall, Reed played some salty defense against PP in scrimage. Could be real good for Green.

[Celtic17]

Good word Ferbo.
I like the battle for mins between Reed and Gomes. See that management wanted to see JR at 1 & 2 today. That's good for them both.

[DERRENMATTS]

At first, I'm scratching my head, thinking, "Shawn Marion"? I mean, Marion is one of the most athletic players in the league, whose pogo stick-like leaping ability allows him to do incredible things.

But I think you mean the way they produce numbers, such as points, rebounding, hustle effort, etc. I can see that comparison. Neither guy needs to be told to come up with loose balls or tough it out. They score in ways that aren't solely one on one. They can go inside and out as well as score off of putbacks.

I wasn't aware that he is acting like a mentor for Gerald Green. This is terrific news.

[cfoo]

Yes Derren that is exactly what I mean. Just because there is a comparison being made doesn't mean he is the next so and so or will ever put up the same numbers. I do think both players share a lot of the same skills. Gomes most likely will never play more than 20-30 minutes a game on this roster. I do think he will produce similar numbers "offensively" to someone like Marion albeit a poor man's Marion in that amount of time. Marion put about 19 and 11 last year in 39 minutes with 2 assists. I envision Gomes down the line playing 20-25 minutes for us and putting up about 10 and 6 in a similar fashion . He is not the athlete Marion is nor will he be the defender MArion is, but offensively they play the same type of game. From what I have seen of Gomes given time regardless of the competition he produces. He has an NBA body and plays teh game the right way. I have 0 reason to think that won't continue at this point. . A better version of Corliss Williamson is what I'm envisioning here.

[cfoo]

Marion averaged 18.7 points and 9.3 rebounds per game and shot .529 in his only season at UNLV. He's gone onto the NBA and produced the same numbers. Gomes college numbers are almost identical. Gomes is a better rebounder than Corliss and Eric Williams. He's a better all around scorer than Malik Rose. I see gomes's game translating well to the NBA so I think the trend will continue. His biggest hurdle is going to be getting time. I don't know who else to compare him to. And I dont care where he was drafted. Both he and Reed were drafted low and I think both guys can play. Green was passed on by 17 other teams. Tony Allen and Jefferson were both steals. West too I still think. Gomes was originally targetted as a mid to late first round choice and I consider him a good one at that spot. At 50 he was a steal. When looking at Ainge's track record so far minus maybe Banks I don't think he has not picked a steal yet.

[eddietours]

one quick question is gomes spanish his last name sounds spanish right?

[ferbo]

One of the things which has been mentioned about Gomes this week, which I don't recall about anyone else, is his passing. Apparently he has made some Bird-like passes to people for easy buckets.

[Celtic17]

I remember seeng something about that to Ferbo. He's a smart player that can find the open man. We need more of this on the C's. That's what I like about West too.