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Post by meltinjohn on Mar 7, 2005 18:54:09 GMT -5
Now that there are no hs'ers or euros being drafted high, there is a projected chance that this draft will not be too strong seeing it relys on a college class that isn't as strong as past years college guys. Redick may not make it in the nba. Garcia could slide some. It just seems that besides Chris Paul, nobody is guaranteed to go top 3. As good as Felton may be, West could be just as good. This doesn't say Danny don't take him but I just think this draft will have a not so good mark on it like past collegiate drafts. Danny can still have a decent draft but theres a chance his first pick could be more like a Kedrick Brown or a Justin Reed who needs developmental time. It doesn't look good seeing these guys are upperclassmen and they may not produce right away out of college. Think of Luke Jackson or Luke Walton. College talent just seems to get weaker and weaker. At least with HS players, they can be given time and they can blossom later but those are not the things you expect out of upperclassmen.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Mar 7, 2005 19:05:51 GMT -5
Its funny because year after year, the experts claim that the draft is getting weaker. But if you look back, the college players are the ones making the impacts. Delonte West, Tony Allen, Kirk Hinrich, Chris Bosh, Carmelo Anthony, Kyle Korver, Andre Iguodala, etc. All these guys are collegiates and they have all turned out well. Of course there's going to be the Amare Stoudemire's and Lebron James' of the world who skip college and make the jump to the pros and do well instantly.
As long as the high schoolers and international players keep getting the hype, Ainge will continue to find gems in the later rounds. Works out for us.
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Post by BCHISTORIAN on Mar 8, 2005 2:58:59 GMT -5
screw the "experts", they are just the same fans we are. thay just get paid  |
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Post by Roadrunner on Mar 8, 2005 13:28:14 GMT -5
I can't say I agree that the draft is getting weaker. When I see players like J Williams, J Hodge, and C Thomas who all look like 2nd round selections, who played 4 years of colllege ball, the college talent looks strong as well. Though there is a flux where some years several 'colllege years'enter the draft (like freshmen, sophomore, etc) , and other years they stay in school for another year.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Mar 8, 2005 16:49:27 GMT -5
And when guys like Wayne Simien and Ronny Turiaf aren't even considered lottery picks, you know that we'll be getting some good guys to choose from in the later part of the first round.
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Post by meltinjohn on Mar 8, 2005 21:47:53 GMT -5
Still meaning that the possible top draft choices won't be as good. Chris Paul was a top pick prospect and now his stock may slide due to him suckerpunching another player.
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Post by Roadrunner on Mar 8, 2005 22:49:53 GMT -5
I would agree there is more quantity than quality. Not alot of "can't miss"prospects, but alot of "could be" a 10-15 year player in the NBA. That is more of a result of star players leaving early, and HS players skipping college.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Mar 9, 2005 1:22:23 GMT -5
Still meaning that the possible top draft choices won't be as good. Chris Paul was a top pick prospect and now his stock may slide due to him suckerpunching another player. Nah, this won't ruin his draft stock. What has lowered his stock is his play. As a freshman, he should a lot of promise. He didn't quite live up to it in his second year. He's still an amazing PG, but many thought he'd have a better season than what he had. |
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Post by meltinjohn on Mar 9, 2005 17:57:08 GMT -5
Yea, I also heard Chris Paul wouldn't be ready for the nba yet. A note on Simien also, I heard hes always hurte. Maybe not a good gamble for Danny to grab for that. Some guys in this draft or even last yr out of college I see as leaving the nba earlier like Red-ick. Maybe even Robert Swift is on that list too. Although Bogut is supposed to be one of the top choices, he may not live up to much seeing true centers are a dying breed. Look at Ed O Bannon and Tyus Edney for example. 2 decent players that led UCLA to the title in 1995 then they get cut. Ed O Bannon left sooner than Edney but both are long out of the league now anyways. Joe Fortes another case of that. JR Rider is now in China playing I heard. Big Country too. Hes been gone 3 yrs now. (censored)erson retired.
These were different years though. Theres more cases of that in this draft and last yrs too. Most guys will just last 5 yrs at most while a good maybe 30-40% stay in the league.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Mar 9, 2005 21:38:31 GMT -5
Well, you can look at injuries and go 2 ways--either they are freak occurrances and shouldn't be taken too indepthly. Or you can be scared off by it and bypass that talented player. If you take this route, then you'd have passed on Kenyon Martin who came into the NBA with a major knee injury which needed surgery.
Young players are still growing and their bodies sometimes get injured because of the growth. I'd be cautious of chronic sprained ankles because that exposes ligament damage, which isn't easily repaired. But I wouldn't worry too much about freak accidents. It happens.
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Post by meltinjohn on Mar 9, 2005 22:50:19 GMT -5
It wouldn't be the end of the world if a team passed up on Kenyon Martin. I can't stand him.
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