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Post by esco33 on Mar 1, 2006 14:57:22 GMT -5
What should the rotation be once everyone is healthy? Last week I would have said bring Gomes back off the bench. Eventually, that is where I see his role as a 30-35 minutes off the bench player.
But now, after 2-3 really, solid games, and decent games before that I say leave him in there as starter. There is no rush to yank him out of the starting lineup. Perk will not be back maybe for another two weeks I think Doc said, and Big Al will surely need to come back very slowly. Also, we cannot neglect the wonderful chemsitry that has been developed the last couple of weeks For now, I hope Doc uses a rotation like this:
Raef-5 Gomes-4 Pierce-3 Wally-2 West-1
When Big Al comes back: (same rotation with Big Al coming off the bench)
When Perk comes back: (This is where it gets a little difficult, because I think Raef plays better when he is starting, but i think the best lineup would be: Perk-5 Gomes-4 ...the rest the same
Eventual rotation next year: Perk-5 Al-4 Wally-3 Pierce-2 West-1
Another possibility could be: Perk-5 Raef-4 ...and Big Al playing center off the bench with Gomes coming in at the four.
....So many possibilities. But which one would be the most effective?
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Post by eja117 on Mar 1, 2006 15:06:48 GMT -5
Oh my God! Doc with possibilities! It'ss take hime 2 years to settle on a rotation. But by that time we'll have some draft picks that will screw him up and DA will make a trade once a year, and that will screw him up too!
I hadn't thouht of the chemistry part. As long as Perk, Al and Ryan are getting like 30 mins per game I'm happy.
I say something like
Raef -5 Gomes -4 Pierce -3 Wally-2 Delonte -1
Al, J, Perk, and GG come off the bench at the same time. Wally having a sore knee means GG has to start playing since TA hasn't shown anything. Also a little bit of OG too.
I hate to have Perk come off the bench and would just keep Raef on the bench and let Perk start and Scala come in if that helped, but Perk has a good attitude and winning should take care of any chemistry issues as long as people are getting good minutes and paid fairly.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2006 15:33:36 GMT -5
As long as Perk, Al and Ryan are getting like 30 mins per game I'm happy. Same here. I think Jefferson and Perkins will demand the most minutes with Gomes being the 6th man coming off the bench.
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Post by eja117 on Mar 1, 2006 15:38:01 GMT -5
Seeing as how Gomes plays Miami tonite, don't be surprised if he tries to make this as hard as possible and goes for like 20/20/5/2/1 against Shaq and Walker and the team wins in the last minute. Also don't be surprised if he comes vrashing to Earth. Just don't get injured. Just don't get injured
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Post by eja117 on Mar 3, 2006 12:55:46 GMT -5
I think the Florida girl put this up already but it definitely is no fun that Perk is so injued. I hate that
"''I don't expect to see Perk in a week," Doc said. ''It would be great if it did happen, but I don't see it."
Rivers added that Perkins still needs to be cleared by doctors before he can even practice -- and he doesn't see such clearance coming for at least a week. Perkins has been told to stay off the weights and acknowledged yesterday that his left shoulder is weaker than his right, which is to be expected. He also has been told if he dislocates the shoulder again, he could be out for a while.
In other words, caution rules."
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Post by ferbo on Mar 3, 2006 15:56:48 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see how Doc approaches the rest of the year.
Will he leave the current startres together, recognizing the chemistry etc. that is happening?
Bring Per and AJ off the bench in limited minutes to get them back in the flow while minimizing chance of further damage?
Or will he mix it up to do some experimenting for next year?
Without the interruption of injuries to Perk and AJ, I think the team would be 5-6 games better of by now. And playoffs something of a real possibility.
As it is, I think it possible that the team can play .500 or so for the rest of the season, but don't see them reaching the playoffs.
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Post by ferbo on Mar 3, 2006 16:01:21 GMT -5
One thing I would like to see THIS year is Gomes get some time at the 3. Can he swing between 3 and 4? o The usual swing is someone who can swing between 2 and 3. If Gomes COULD swing between 3 and 4 and put up the kind of numbers he has been averaging, he would be VERY valuable.
Irony is that he went back for h is 4th year to learn the 3, and now he is starting at the 4.
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Post by FLCeltsFan on Mar 3, 2006 16:09:07 GMT -5
One thing I would like to see THIS year is Gomes get some time at the 3. Can he swing between 3 and 4? o The usual swing is someone who can swing between 2 and 3. If Gomes COULD swing between 3 and 4 and put up the kind of numbers he has been averaging, he would be VERY valuable. Irony is that he went back for h is 4th year to learn the 3, and now he is starting at the 4. I think that Gomes can play the 3 and thought he looked good there when Doc had him playing there... but given what Doc said in this morning's paper, I don't see it happening. I think he can be effective at the 3. He is such a smart player and just doesn't do things out there that hurt us. I can see Gomes and Al sharing time at the 4 and Perk and Raef sharing time at the 5.
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Post by esco33 on Mar 3, 2006 16:23:42 GMT -5
I can see Gomes and Al sharing time at the 4 and Perk and Raef sharing time at the 5. I agree. Gomes has been way more effective at the 4, rebounding and pounding the glass down low. This is not to say that he will never play the 3 again, but right now he has played himself into the power forward rotation. I agree that Perk and Raef will play the bulk of minutes at the 5 with Kandi backing them up when they are in foul trouble, and Big Al and Gomes will man the power forward position with Scal backing them up when they are in foul trouble.
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Post by ferbo on Mar 3, 2006 17:27:03 GMT -5
If Gomes could play 15 minutes at the 4 and 15 at the 3, he could get good minutes without eating into AJ.
I think it likely that Gomes will start the rest of the year. Next year will be very disappointing if AJ doesn't come out as starter.
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Post by Celtic17 on Mar 5, 2006 19:56:20 GMT -5
Looks like DA has drafted his way into some nice options. Gotta love 2 or 3 players, on your bench, that could start (or get major mins) on most teams. 1986 comes to mind.
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Post by mev17 on Mar 6, 2006 1:53:39 GMT -5
I would like to see West, Pierce, Wally, Gomes, Perkins to start with Jefferson and Raef coming off the bench. It would give the second unit 2 scoring options for Greene to pass the ball to. I would use Jefferson to rest Wally and move Gomes to the 3 so that we can keep Wally's minutes down a little to help his knee, and allow Gomes to cut his teeth at the 3 as well.
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Post by VI_CelticsFan on Mar 6, 2006 7:20:48 GMT -5
I would like to see West, Pierce, Wally, Gomes, Perkins to start with Jefferson and Raef coming off the bench. It would give the second unit 2 scoring options for Greene to pass the ball to. I would use Jefferson to rest Wally and move Gomes to the 3 so that we can keep Wally's minutes down a little to help his knee, and allow Gomes to cut his teeth at the 3 as well. That sounds good to me. I've been thinking about how Big Al could be good coming off the bench this year. He would make an excellent inside scoring option. Al needs to rest that ankle and starting him would make it worse. He still needs to learn and I think we're fine with Gomes starting this year. But when next season comes around, Al will move into the starting rotation and Gomes will back him up.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2006 13:40:10 GMT -5
I would like to see West, Pierce, Wally, Gomes, Perkins to start with Jefferson and Raef coming off the bench. It would give the second unit 2 scoring options for Greene to pass the ball to. I would use Jefferson to rest Wally and move Gomes to the 3 so that we can keep Wally's minutes down a little to help his knee, and allow Gomes to cut his teeth at the 3 as well. You can do the samething with Jefferson starting at PF. Basically put Gomes in for Wally then once you rotate wally back in the game just push Gomes back to 4 so Jefferson can get a rest. In other words, Gomes is used as the back-up at the 3-4 position.
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Post by Celtic17 on Mar 7, 2006 19:06:52 GMT -5
I agree JHVOS. More balance that way, IMO.
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