Celtics Ruining The NBA With Too Many 3's?

[🍀🏀Reggie#35]

[eja117]

I absolutely it's ruining the game and needs to be addressed within the rules and tradition of the game. I wouldn't do anything weird but there are things they could do.

[🍀🏀Reggie#35]

So, the Celtics are ruining the game?

[🍀🏀Reggie#35]

There was a time

A long time ago

Only shooting was allowed

NO DUNKING

And everyone said if you allow dunking

You will ruin the game

[jmost]

My personal idea of good basketball is lots of player movement and ball movement. I like great individual moves too, but a great pass is what I really love. That can result in a 2 or a 3. I just don't like ISO ball - at least not a steady diet of it.

We already see teams trying to take the 3 away from us, and it's then up to us to find another way to win. But that's what's beautiful about what Brad has put together. We have a roster full of guys who can score inside or out. When we're playing well I think it's beautiful basketball. When Tatum is "fiddling and diddling" as Johnny Most used to say, out beyond the arc, and then hucks up a 25 footer, I hate it.

[freshnthehouse]

I definitely think it's complicated. The reliance on 3s has made the game more skilled. It used to be that each team had 2-3 guys that were pretty much zeroes on the offensive end. Now 90% of the league can shoot with range. I think the current game is fun to watch with teams like Boston or prime Golden State. The flip side is watching a bad team launch ugly 3's for 3 hours is pretty awful basketball to watch.

I do love the purity of a game without a 3 point line. I bet basketball was smoother before guys had to look at their feet to make sure they're behind some arbitrary line. But that genie is out of the bottle, so we're never gonna see the 3 point shot go away.

My idea has always been to widen the court. I think it would open things near the hoop a lot. Players are far more long and athletic than they were decades ago, yet we are still playing with the same size court.

[🍀🏀Reggie#35]

To your excellent point, Fresh, I would like to add I would be totally against adding a 4 point spot or line. Which has been discussed a million times. I think that is stupid.

However, I have thought about maybe adding a 1 point. Like maybe as eja said, what if you adjusted something else. What if say points in the paint were worth 2 points, jumpers outside of the paint were worth 1 point, and keep 3's.

I also gree with widening the court. The stepping out of bounds on side 3's is getting really frustrating. Plus the base of the baskets structure is too close to the baseline. Not safe for player. And the fans are too close spilling crap as well.

[jmost]

in no particular order...

I'm also on board with widening the court. I really hate when one of our guys steps on the sideline with his back foot.

Changing from 10 seconds to 8 to get the ball over half-court has been a good change, but it's still almost automatic. I think they ought to think about changing it again, to 7 or even 6 seconds. It would make the game more exciting, and more skilled.

And while they're at it, have the shot clock start ticking the instant the ball hits the floor or a player's hands. This business of rolling the ball on the floor and having the game clock move but not the shot clock is BS. Clever thinking by whoever thought it up, but not great for the game.

I'm guessing this one might be unpopular: if a team gets an offensive rebound on a missed 2, any subsequent basket can't count for more than 2 points. So, no more "miss a 2, get the rebound, make a 3, and basically get rewarded for your original miss." Just my opinion.

I don't know if anyone else here is old enough to remember the ABA, when they had the 3 point line before the NBA did. I remember watching part of an ABA game with a college roommate and we were laughing about how ridiculous it looked for players to be backing up to take a shot. Now the step back 3 is a staple of some of the game's great scorers.

[🍀🏀Reggie#35]

Really good points. I would like to add some amendments:

Instead of changing the 8 seconds to advanced past halfcourt time again, I say that your point about having the clock start regardless if it has been touched upon inbound. Should just be as soon as one teams possession ends, time begins for the other team. You have 8 seconds to advance and 24 seconds before possession ends. Put the pressure on the players to stop delaying the game and put some urgency on inbounding. Puts an end to rolling the ball for any advantages. Now, the advancing of the ball won't be an issue and if you value your possession you'll advance the ball without all the shenanigans.

[🍀🏀Reggie#35]

This one is really controversial to me. As I don't see it as rewarding the miss. As much as I see it penalizing the other team for not getting the rebound and letting the opposing team restart a possession. I don't see this one working and doesn't make sense to me from a basketball standpoint. Trying to find ways to take away or kill the 3 pointer altogether while hurting the most fundamental aspects of basketball seems illogical.

[eja117]

I realized the modern game had been somewhat destroyed and was becoming unwatchable when I watched Wemby's first game. The dude is 7 ft something so naturally his first shot was a three. Then he next shot was a three.

To me the basic problem is to try to get players to drive and dunk again.

So I'd probably try to do the following.

No more 3 free throws on a foul until the 4th quarter.

End the charging foul. If you knock someone over, sounds good to me. I've hated it for years and years when a little dude apparently knocks over some huge player and it's a charge. I mean how big of a sissy are we? In fact...consider some sort of foul on a guy that gets charged. Call it flopping. You get knocked over....foul on you for being weak. Sounds crazy but I promise you that you won't see Steph Curry or even James Harden trying to do this. You won't see Pritchard do it. You won't see tons of players do it. It's not a physical league and we need to bring a ton of it back. The 90s would eat this league alive and I suspect the 80s wouldn't even play them. They'd be like "Come back when you're a man."

Reduce fouls from 6 to 5 like in college. Go get a guy in foul trouble.

I think maybe a way I'd incentivize ending the ball rolling thing would be to require the defending team to always have at least one player in the half of the court that the opposing team is possessing the ball in. No more picking up at half court for at least one guy.

And to Mazz's point.....let em fight a little if it comes to that.

To Loy's point there is another adjustment that needs to be made....coaches need to take out players that take lazy threes. Remember how horrible was in that last year watching Rasheed Wallace jack up lazy threes? And that came on the heels of Toine jacking up lazy threes. That was just bad coaching.