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Post by runrondo on Jun 25, 2022 10:16:29 GMT -5
I don't really know how to compare the developmental opportunity of another year in college with that offered by playing in the G League and being around the Celtics part of the time. Any thoughts on that? That's a great question. My issue with the G League is that players might not be playing the "best" way and I get concerned the intent of the players (to showcase for NBA only). Hence, why Carsen Edwards who is shooting 22 shots a game in the G League leads that league in scoring yet obviously didn't look great in his time with us in terms of confidence and a different role. Granted, you could say something similar about College with these players being one-and-done - but, I think the coaches and philosophy is about growth considering they're in college and they get a wide range of games/teams to play against.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 25, 2022 15:16:21 GMT -5
I just signed up for a trial subscription to theathetic.com, and they had an article about Davison. So, a few takeaways ... 1) He could have benefited from another year in college, perhaps more than anyone else in the draft. (writer's opinion) 2) He's shot well in workouts, but hasn't shown it yet in games. 3) He's a hard worker. Overall take: extremely athletic with a great attitude and work ethic, but very raw. Possibly years away from meaningful contribution. I said this about Jaylen and I'll repeat it with JD. Give me a young guy with elite athleticism who's willing to work and I like my chances. I don't really know how to compare the developmental opportunity of another year in college with that offered by playing in the G League and being around the Celtics part of the time. Any thoughts on that? Plus, he's the 53rd pick. If he doesn't pan out, he won't be considered a bust. Again, I'm taking the long view approach with JD. If it takes him 5 years to be a dependable shooter and a PG who takes care of the ball, that's ideal (so we don't give him his big paycheck until his 3rd contract).
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Post by jmost on Jun 25, 2022 15:57:00 GMT -5
According to the history of 53rd picks in the NBA draft, he has a 30% chance of being a deep bench guy, a 15% chance of being a bust, and a 55% chance of not playing at all. You have the extreme outlier in Manu Ginobili, picked at [HASH]57, but statistically speaking, the overwhelming majority of 53rd (or later) picks don't amount to much, so why not swing for the fences with a guy who at the very least has NBA-level physical abilities? The Spurs, btw, had to wait several years before Manu came over to play for them. I am NOT saying that JD will turn into Manu, just that sometimes the wait is worth it. I see it as low risk, high reward. Possibly. Trivia fact: Orien Greene was also selected by the Celtics with the 53rd pick. www.82games.com/nbadraftpicks.htm
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 25, 2022 16:10:29 GMT -5
Orien was more of a PG coming out of college than JD (he was older).
But, correct. At 53, take a chance on a young kid who flashes. His speed, explosiveness and athleticism we can try to harness.
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Post by jmost on Jun 25, 2022 20:41:35 GMT -5
Compared to Pritch, higher ceiling, lower floor. Doesn't cost us much to find out which he'll be.
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Post by jmost on Jul 10, 2022 17:48:15 GMT -5
It's a small thing probably, but Davison agreed to a 2-way contract with the Celtics. We expected him to spend a lot of time in Portland anyway but this leaves an additional Boston roster spot open for any additions Brad may want to make.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 15, 2022 13:09:46 GMT -5
JD Davison has turned heads and opened eyes, and for all the right reasons. He's surely changed my opinion.
He is not:
- a showboat he was in high school (dunking, flexing, staring down guys) - not a reckless, all speed and no substance guy I thought he was at Bama
He is:
- a Point who plays with his head on a swivel, looking for the correct read. Plays with good composure. Not a ball dominating PG. Has potential to use his speed and change of pace to his advantage. Ball handling is sufficient and will get better. Set shot three point shooter. Needs to get better at jump shooting, especially mid range. Has good feel for assists. Can be a solid steals guy.
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Post by jmost on Jul 15, 2022 13:58:24 GMT -5
JD says he's been working on his shooting with his agent, former player Mike Miller - who was a career 40.7% 3 point shooter.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 15, 2022 15:36:09 GMT -5
JD says he's been working on his shooting with his agent, former player Mike Miller - who was a career 40.7% 3 point shooter. Not a bad guy to learn from, not bad at all.
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Post by freshnthehouse on Jul 15, 2022 17:52:31 GMT -5
Mike Miller, gotta be the greatest player the Dakotas has ever produced.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 15, 2022 18:04:49 GMT -5
Mike Miller, gotta be the greatest player the Dakotas has ever produced. Well, it's time for Fresh to produce a baby Fresh who will be the greatest Dakotan ever! Hawaii hasn't produced many athletes, but AC Carter did play for Univ. of Hawaii. He had an unspectacular career, but 20+ years later, he's still in the game (he's on MIA's coaching staff). Back to the topic, I don't mind JD only being a set shot shooter. On this team, his points will most likely come from the ball finding him. Mike Miller can teach JD how to be ready to catch and shoot -- he was fairly good at the catch and shoot.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 15, 2022 20:33:57 GMT -5
JD says he's been working on his shooting with his agent, former player Mike Miller - who was a career 40.7% 3 point shooter. Just in case you don't believe JMost (and shame on you if you don't) and needed a source
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