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Post by cfoo on Nov 4, 2014 2:43:55 GMT -5
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RSMO29h6UwAnyone who missed the game has to see the behind the back pass by smart. It comes at like 3 minutes. This was the only highlight package i could find but smart was big tonight. He could not get a call against Dirk all night though. Scal and Gorman were making fun of dirk all night long calling him one of the all time greats. Smart made some huge plays though. Dirk got upset at sully and started crying to the officials, because the game was too physical. Team effort but Smart was a huge factor in the 4th quarter as well. Stevens utilized lineups with Bradley, Rondo and Smart on the floor with Green and KO and Sully. He played the entire 4th quarter i think with Rondo and Bradley out there. He was also all over the place and a huge reason why we were in the game. Tommy basically said Smart is already one of the best defenders in the nba of guys who has been in the league 10 years and he's not lying.
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Post by cfoo on Nov 4, 2014 3:03:58 GMT -5
The thing with Smart is he is almost better served that way coming off the bench, because he can play physical and defend and not get called for so many fouls. He's also much better at picking his shots.
Bradley is a great defender too but can't do that as much because he starts. It will be interesting how Smart's role goes with this team. As he gains respect from the officials he defnately has potential to be a starter. I don't see that though for him. I hope we can keep all 3 of those guys for a long time. Dream backcourt for me. I would not break that up.
Smart, Bradley and Rondo can play that much more aggressively that way because they have each other.
This team is going to be so good because of this pretty much. Rondo, Bradley, Smart plus Green and Sully and KO and the bench we have and flexibility we have going forward with picks. This team is already ridiculous.
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Post by freshnthehouse on Nov 4, 2014 3:41:47 GMT -5
I never understood people that worried about Smart being a true PG in the pros. Dude has a great eye for finding teammates at the right place. He may pale compared to Rondo in that regard but who doesn't? Smart was such a good value at 6. Would anyone be shocked if this guy is averaging 16/6/7 with all-world D in a few years? I sure wouldn't.
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Post by cfoo on Nov 4, 2014 5:46:09 GMT -5
I think he can play the point too. Having multiple guys that bring different things is good though to me. Rondo has always been like adam oates to me or kreiji. Where smart is something else. Rondo is a pure distributor. Smart is a great pg too. I think we have the 2 best pgs in the nba potentially to go with a well rounded group which is only going to make them better.
Smart is still young is all. He's o nly going to get better in that regard once his offense catches up. But I think smart is more versatile where he can play multiple positions.
The bruins have always done this with their centers. The pats have brady. We have rondo and smart. I think smart is going to be like a james harden defensive guy for us. I compared to a guy like lance Stephenson but way better a while back.
We sign rondo. Rondo is going to be in his 30's at the end of his next contract where smart will be like 25 years old and his pg skills will be even better. WE have it set up that way where smart is going to be on a rookie deal and then we can sign him to something around what rondo was making on his current deal.
I'd like for that to be the core of our team. If DA doesn't do that ill be somewhat disappointed. It might not work out that way.
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Post by cfoo on Nov 4, 2014 5:52:19 GMT -5
AB is locked up too for a while at a good rate. There is going to be tons of drama regarding all that but I'd just stay the course with these guys. There's no reason to move them. Ainge signing Bradley to that contract was imperative. Really smart too. I've been saying this all along though. I understand the other stuff but I also don't. I really like the guys we have and hope we stick with all of them longterm.
Ainge has not done anything to make me believe otherwise either. He has done everything I wanted him to. He's explored other things but in the end this is it. I'm ready to roll with t his team and have been way ahead of the curve on this stuff and the general consensus. At least as far as the media and internet are concerned. I try to see other pov's but that's what I think.
Smart is going to be a beast. I still think Rondo is our best player especially once he gets healthy. But Smart is right there already. Having that kind of duel pronged pg attack with the players we have is going to be deadly. Pressey is nice too.
There's no reason to trade these guys. Why? I've given plenty of reasons why we shouldn't and the team is backing me up on that.
I've explored everything. But talk to me in 5 years once we reup rondo. I hope we keep this together.
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Post by cfoo on Nov 4, 2014 6:07:26 GMT -5
I've been looking for the tom brady of pgs. 3 years ago I made a post that I wanted the tom brady of pgs for our next run. The truth is there isn't one. Chris Paul maybe, but Rondo and Smart is the closest we are going to get to that. The combination of the 2 of them is going to dominate the nba though.
Maybe Marcus will be "the guy". But I don't see why we have to do that right now. I hope not in ways. I don't see why we have to move ROndo because we have Smart. At least not right now. It's more media speculation and stupidity because Rondo's contract is coming up.
Thing is I would take the combination of rondo and smart over chris paul any day of the week.
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Post by cfoo on Nov 4, 2014 16:35:27 GMT -5
The good thing about our guard rotation is they compliment each other. Smart off the bench, Bradley doesn't need to play major minutes. Rondo ahould be somewhat capped because of his age and health as well. Smart can backup the 1, 2, 3 plus we have turner to spell rondo every so often. I think Smart's role will expand and turner will be let go in a couple years. I think we signed him to a 2 year deal. At that point Smart will be ready to play more point. DA has it all mapped out.
I am too smart for my own good. I come on the internet everyone would be telling me im nuts because I think this team is great and they have but the internet isn't reality. Just telling it how it is. I'll show em though. lol... We've got a wise one. Better ban him quick before he says something smart.
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Post by Celtic17 on Nov 5, 2014 3:38:46 GMT -5
Clear to see, at this rate, [HASH]36 is going to be a fan favorite. Good to see a young guy take a late 'big' shot and nail it. Not to mention his court vision and defense.
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Post by Roadrunner on Nov 7, 2014 18:45:41 GMT -5
Marcus Smart is like 1b or 1c to the PG/SG situation in BOS. Right in line of Danny's draft strategy of selecting the BPA regardless of what the team has already.
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Post by Celtic17 on Nov 8, 2014 17:58:11 GMT -5
I really like the fact that he hasn't hesitated when the shot is there. Not so much where he falls in the pecking order.
Sounds like he'll be out 2-3 weeks with is ankle......
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Post by Roadrunner on Nov 8, 2014 23:31:34 GMT -5
Smart has good shooting mechanics. His shot just has not fallen.
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Post by cfoo on Nov 9, 2014 7:10:24 GMT -5
He's still young too. I think Smart still has some things to prove but the guy is going to be good if he stays healthy. That's the nnice thing about having Rondo and Turner here now. We are pretty loaded. Rondo is due to be a free agent and turner is signed for 2 years. We can reup Rondo etc even still. I don't think there is any rush there. I t hink a lot of that stuff it's best to just wait and see how things go.
Right now it's a good thing we have Rondo and Turner and guys like that. Smart is hurt. Nothing wrong with having all these guys.
I don't know if Smart is ready to be the guy on this team as it stands anyways. Or even if that is his role ultimately. It could be but still I'd let the process play out. I'm not ready to anoint Smart that yet.
The Celtics to me have always been a team anyways. It's not about one guy. The media still kind of bothers me that way. I liked watching the special on Marcus Smart and everything but the focus on it is a bit naïve to me. This is what fans want to hear and what sells so this is what we get. We have Rondo too and all these guys. They are still here. Fans want to hear about trade rumors with Rondo but it doesn't mean it's the case right now.
Zeller got poked in the eye. We hear nothing about it. Smart goes down it's a media circus. I don't know. Zeller is probably like my eye hurts too... Smart sprained his ankle and is very young and is out for a couple weeks. We have other guys who can step in. I love marcus and wish him the best too obviously but yeah.
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Post by cfoo on Nov 9, 2014 7:21:18 GMT -5
All I know is having Turner here and signed for a couple years gives us a lot of options. Nothing is set in stone that way. I'd never say never and hope ainge keeps evaluating but I'd like to keep all these guys. We have so many draft picks and flexibility it is possible Smart's role increases faster with Turner here. We can replace guys with picks nad trades, but part of me is still in why mode on that stuff.
It doesn't hurt having all these guys regardless. We should be really good this year.
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Post by cfoo on Nov 9, 2014 8:51:37 GMT -5
Smart does need to stop flopping. I can't stand that. Just because other teams are cheaters doesn't mean we should be too. I don't think I've seen rondo flop ever. The Celtics usually don't do that.
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Post by doctorrain on Nov 18, 2014 17:13:30 GMT -5
Smart is a good natural defender, that is key. Seems big and strong also. But he is NOT and I repeat NOT ready to take over for Rondo. He does need to be given time though but it wont be 2 years until hes a starting pg on this team. If Rondo gets moved, I don't think it should be a move to force Smart into the starting role, not this soon anyhow.
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