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Post by cfoo on Oct 29, 2014 19:01:59 GMT -5
I made this post the other day. I keep deleting posts because I say things out of respect to teh rumors around the net and waiting things out. I honestly don't believe any moves need to be made. Including thornton we can still play young and having depth and a vet there is important. WE have pieces. I think we are. Also think bradley and green are going to wake up and be big shooters for us from range with the guys we have. But pretty spot on otherwise.
But was a guess about our opening roster plus predictions. I don't see Thornton being moved. I don't expect much movement at all and think the picks we have are almost too much and flexibility in ways. WAit and see approach but we are contenders. Still saved this post. It's a long season and i'm more about the process and not saying much in that regard but yeah.
Plus predictions for the year. If rondo is healthy I'm going with Rondo, Bradley, Green, Sully and KO. I hope Sully and KO start every game down low for us this year. Get some chemistry going. Might not work out that way.
Key Reserves
Smart Turner Thornton Bass Zeller
Additional depth
Wallace Pressey Powell/Young
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Favarani
D-league
Powell or Young or both once Fav is ready to go.
Hoping Ainge moves Thornton around the deadline so Young can play. Other than that I'd stand pat barring something happening with Rondo or Green.
I'd cut Bynum and send Eddie to the d-league to be "evaluated". Other than that pretty straightforward. This team is ready to make some noise potentially and has flexibility with picks coming up but isn't forced into doing anything really.
Too much drama around the internet. Ainge has done a masterful job of keeping his head out of his butt. I'm getting back to no nonsense myself.
KO is kind of a big key to our success this year. He is that glue guy in the starting lineup. Sully is coming into his own. he's been around 3 years. KO this is his second year but 4 year college guy.
i'm standing pat with my 47 win prediction and feeling good about it too. End of the year same roster too. Rondo and Green go nowhere. Ainge trades Thornton for a bag of chips and we go into the offseason looking for those missing pieces. Ainge could blow it up and go further into the draft and play turner and smart this year but I'll believe it when it happens and this team is underachieving where that is necessary.
I think if this team reaches it's potential, it's a 47 win team, wins the division and can go and get a big time center or some missing piece. Otherwise it's build with Smart and Sully and KO and put other pieces around them.
A lot of things will determine that. Bradley's health and play etc.. AS well as Rondo himself. The Celtics aren't back yet but we should have an idea soon. What I like about this team is our roster fits together well and every guy is key and controls their own destiny in ways.
A lot of questions but I think both Rondo and Bradley are going to have big years. Same with Sully and Green. KO is the key. Our bench is also going to be terrific which bodes well. Our weakness is the center spot. Zeller needs some development and so does KO. Favarani is hurt. But I like that spot too.
It's going to take some time to establish chemistry and whether that happens but overall this team has a very good mix. Bass, Turner, Thornton, Zeller, Smart, Wallace, Pressey, Young. That is a really strong bench. Our starters are above average as well.
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Post by cfoo on Oct 29, 2014 19:09:08 GMT -5
The feeling in my gut is we are. I dont see a huge difference between this team and a team like the royals or cowboys. The red sox were bad one year won the world series. The pundits are the pundits. Aigne doesnt want to go there. I dont blame him. I don't either. Let the pundits be the pundits but I will.
It's a long season. I dont' want this team to get ahead of itself. I want us to focus each game and get better each game. That's what I want but i'll say it anyways.
I expect this team to win every year. Not realistic and have to pick your spots but I expect that.
i don't see what this team is missing either. These guys are extremely underrated.
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Post by cfoo on Oct 29, 2014 19:22:29 GMT -5
The C's are going to win the championship this year. Rondo will be locked up in short order and we have a ton of picks to replenish talent on the cheap. No moves will be made. Thornton will walk. We will draft a couple guys. Young will take over for Thornton next year and will play behind him this year.
This is it. This is your team. Bill Simmons is a weasel.
Marcus Smart is still going to be the best pg in the nba someday. He already is one. So is rondo. Rondo is the best pg in the nba. We are going to kill teams with both of them. Smart will take over someday but not any time soon. Rondo's contract will be up we'll extend smart then he'll become the starter years from now.
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Post by Celtic17 on Oct 29, 2014 23:11:43 GMT -5
I like my green koolaid but I don't swim in it.
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Post by cfoo on Oct 30, 2014 0:59:05 GMT -5
I don't think think it has to do with swimming in anything. I'm pretty confident in this team. Listened to a lot of negativity and people on the net that don't know what they are talking about is all. NJ was the team who won the division last. It's a long year and Toronto is probably the top team there this year, but we are right there. It's a long year. We have a lot of picks coming up where we don't really have to do a whole lot and just let the chips fall as they may.
Listening to tommy tonight he's so positive about this team but most people can't converse with him. Tommy gets it. The celtics also know what they are doing. This team is going to be very good.
Home game and this team is going to come up against much more talented teams than nj ont he road and tough games. It's a long year but style of play and intelligence is a big part of basketball. A lot of these teams are very talented nad good though. But some of them lack some of that.
Rondo is a huge x-factor for us. Smart off the bench is also huge. I'm not overly concerned about rondo's free throw shooting either. It's a team game. The celtics are a smart basketball team and in crunch time they inbound the ball to the right guys. We did it for years with Ray allen and both Thornton and Bradley are good free throw shooters. Rondo can hit free throws when we need him to anyways. He shoots 70 percent and the ones that count more importantly which he is capable of more than that we are fine.
Just the facts. We have some very underrated players. Stars are made not born.
This team may fall short this year but they are going to be in the conversation. We have picks to go out and get those pieces as well.
The celtics can really change the nba in ways and get back to good basketball. We have the pieces to do that. Dynasty in the making here. I don't agree with the general consensus about this team at all so much. The media in general just goes with what's trending and drama filled and most of the g uys espn hires aren't the most knowledgable at all.
It's a long year though. This team hopefully will take it one game at a time and not get ahead of themselves and I don't see any reason why they wouldn't. They know what they are doing.
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Post by cfoo on Oct 30, 2014 1:08:31 GMT -5
Rondo's health is a huge part of that. The celtics back in the day were knocking on the door, got Bill Russell and the rest is history. I don't think anything is set in stone on this team except it's going to happen. i don't see huge changes either. Rondo has to prove he can stay healthy for us as much as anything. He has to prove he can make us an upper echelon team as well. Smart is waiting in the wings regardless.
The foundation of this team is already here. WE have as much a chance this year as any. DA has been saying it all along that these guys are in the plans long term. I agree with him too. He's been buildng this thing all along.
The celtics are building towards a championship. There may be changes to get us over the top depending on what happens this year. There's no set plan that way. Except ainge is building towards a championship with these guys.
The celtics remind me of the royals last year except we already have Rondo here. The royals were young, dealt for shields , had a somewhat middling year but were int he conversation then made it to the world series this year. They still couldnt get over the hump though. Really tough to get all the way there but they are young and hopefully can get back. but that's the scary thing about that sometimes it takes year to get back. But maybe next year they will get over that hump.
The celtics to me are somewhere between that middling year and something else. We can actually get there this year imo. It really depends on what happens with Rondo. I dont see him being moved though.
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Post by cfoo on Oct 30, 2014 1:30:41 GMT -5
The celtics are one of the smartest organizations in sports. DA knows what he is doing and isn't going to trade Rondo on a whim. That's the internet for you and guy slike BIll Simmons. Smart is very young and not the true pg Rondo is. We have both. Smart can play off the bench. Rondo is a distributor.
Any team that has Rondo and Marcus Smart at pg and the assortment of young talent that we do and pieces that fit the way they do is not going to be a bad basketball team.
Tom brady said hello too. People thought he was washed up.
Rondo was hurt last year and we were very young with a rookie coach, and our pieces didnt fit. it's the only reason we had a bad year. That is not true this year.
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Post by cfoo on Oct 30, 2014 1:50:17 GMT -5
JEff Green is also a very good basketball player. He is way better than Wiggins or Parker right now. Smart is probably the most nba ready out of any of those guys. It was a great pick.
KO is a poor man's dirk and Sully is the perfect allstar capable garbage player. AB is also highly underrated. Our starting 5 plus Smart and Turner off the bench with the other guys chipping in is going to be big for us.
Havinbg a bunch of guys like that who share the ball with the pg play we do is going to cause opposing teams a lot of problems. Most teams are reliant on 1 or 2 star players. We have 7.
It's going to take time is all.
The celtics were a playoff team with rondo and an aging pierce and kg. This team is more talented than that. That's all the reasons I can think of for now.
The only reason we were bad last year is ebcause rondo was hurt. Stevens was a rookie head coach and we were too young and inexperienced and we lacked pieces. None of that is true anymore.
All these guys have had an entire offseason to work with stevens and on their games and everything i have seen leads me to believe they were/are working on the right things.
Too much bs on the internet telling me how to think when most of it is just that. bullshit. I read so many times people state things like its fact when most of these people don't have a clue what they are talking about. Bill simmons and most sports writers are the worst at this.
We won 25 games last year. To me there has been too much improvement this offseason barring injury or some unforeseen chemistry issue I don't see how we will repeat anything close to that. It's a talent league but our talent level is better imo and our pieces fit better too. They fit really well actually imo. that's just why I think what I do. No swimming in anything. Just logic to me.
These guys have to buy in all year though and keep working. It's a long season. We are young and are going to hit adversity and it will be interesting how we react. Young teams take a bit sometime to get over that hump. We have vets though where I think we'll be alright.
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Post by Celtic17 on Oct 30, 2014 3:25:01 GMT -5
I like the make up of this young team too. Olynyk is one of the guys I've been keeping an eye on from his first day. Liking his progress and potential. I could see a McHale type player with a deeper shot. God I hate comparing players. It does neither right. But I like him so far. Smart seems like one that will get there soon too. Got to love D!
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Post by cfoo on Oct 30, 2014 4:03:32 GMT -5
I don't like making predictions but im more just positive and enjoying this team per usual. People dont' have to agree either but would b e nice if people were more positive. I think realistically what I'm saying is kind of true that's the whole thing. Tired of trade this guy or that guy. I've always been about the process and wait and see myself but I also evaluate too and that's just what I do. People see things differently. That's fine but some of it is just too much. If the common theme on the internet is we are going to suck I can say we are going to win the championship is how I feel. I also think that is possible. Just my opinion. I think that's definitely possible.
These guys are young. It's early. We've beaten the nets 3 times in a row. I don't believ ethe nets are the best team in the division. I think the raptors will be a test as well. Vet teams also start off slow sometimes. The Celtics would do that with kg and then turn it on. Vet teams do that. We are young. We start off hot then fade.
I still like the players we have though. I don't see a ton of movement on this team. Whether these guys can hit big shots in big games right now is anyones guess but STevens has them working on the right things. These guys aren't stupid either and neither am I. I have heard nothing from the C's indicating they are getting ahead of themselves.
NOthing wrong with positivity either though. Tired of having to explain that. I think this team is going to be awesome. That's how if eel so I'll go with that. People can disagree. That's my opinion.
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Post by cfoo on Oct 30, 2014 4:07:46 GMT -5
KO is a really good player. These guys are being underrated. So is AB and Sully and Green and Rondo and Smart and Turner. Zeller, Bass, Pressey, Thornton etc fit well too. I'd say realistically we have amazing pg's. Smart is young but off the bench he's going to come in with energy and beast, but has be consistant.
I think Rondo is a legit superstar. I think KO, Sully, Bradley, Green are all stars potentially. Bradley is more a roleplayer but underrated. Smart is another potential superstar. Turner is a glue guy. We have a full roster of legit players who all fit well.
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Post by cfoo on Oct 30, 2014 4:08:08 GMT -5
Smart is James Harden to me but on defense. Which excites me more because I love defense. KO is a poor man's dirk. Sully is going to be a staple here if he can keep working. We have all these picks to replenish talent and get that extra piece.
As far as predictions this team keeps doing what they are it's a no brainer to me. Just working on improving. Stevens had each guy individual yand as a team working on their weaknesses. Whether they sustain it is one thing. That will separate some players but I have faith in guys like Green. He looked like a new man tonight.
I'd rather focus on the positive of that. I try lol. I'm going to enjoy this season though. espn has us ranked like 29th. let them do that. They have us ranked that over the next 3 years. They might have a difference of opinion but it sti ll doesn't mean they aren't missing something there lol. 90 percent of the media has had rondo traded and all but traded.
I can have my opinion too.
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Post by cfoo on Oct 30, 2014 4:23:13 GMT -5
KO is going to fit this team really well imo because he is a poor man's dirk. He shares the ball quite a bit and scores off of other people as well but can create his own shot. Which fits our style better imo. He's getting better at being patient and finding his shots and with his hustle on defense and positioning.
It's like Lebron to me. Why do we need LeBron when we have Pierce? Pierce was underrated. Still is. why do we need kevin love when we have sully? Why do we need dirk when we have KO? Why do we need to trade Rondo? We do have marcus smart but still why do w e need to trade Rondo?
IF Rondo is healthy we are that much more dangerous. WE have players on rookie deals and affordable players surrounding him. Smart's energy off the bench is going to be huge.
This team is going to be awesome. That's really all that needs to be said.
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Post by nateval on Oct 30, 2014 7:41:01 GMT -5
Great game last night Kval and I got to go, good energy at the Garden. This team looks better than I expected at the very least they are really fun to watch. When it comes to anointing them contenders this season I disagree. This season is about getting better having expectations that they are a contender doesn't seem fair to me. I get your opinion CF but I don't agree. Will this team be better than expected? It looks like it but I'm not even buying they are a playoff team yet never mind a contender.
The Celtics have a brutal November schedule against a lot of real contenders I'm anxious to see how they look against them. Celts have played Philly, Nets and Knicks played a good Toronto team in preseason but not exactly top tier teams. I have a sneaky suspicion the Nets aren't going to be a good team. They flat out look old. All and all a great start for the Celtics bring on the Rockets Saturday! Lets take this one game at a time!
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Post by Celtic17 on Oct 30, 2014 11:01:39 GMT -5
Great game last night Kval and I got to go, good energy at the Garden. On my list of things to do. And I agree with the rest of your post...
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