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« Thread Started on Aug 15, 2009, 8:54pm »

Everyone knew about our Big 3--Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, and Ray Allen. But, in last year's post season, unknowing basketball fans became educated to an addition to the Big 3--Rajon Rondo, the short but lightning quick PG with gorilla arms and monster hands. Rondo stepped up his game in the epic 7 game battle against Derrick Rose and the Chicago Bulls, and in the process put his name on the map. He is now a household name in many homes across the country (there are still a few fans in North Dakota who have never heard of him--but oh, they will).

He had his moments of truly inspiring basketball, when he and Rose traded blow after blow, and then would stand right back up and trade more blows. But due to fatigue and 2 bum ankles, Rajon sputtered out, and was left with little in the tank when we advanced to the next series against the Orlando Magic. Newly acquainted fans who looked forward to see more of Rajon were left scratching their heads, as Rajon wasn't the same player he was against Chicago. How can a guy take on a stud in the making (Rose) and look equally as impressive, and then take on a role player like Rafer Alston, and look a step slow?

Again, the ankles were tender, and fatigue set in, but the average fan didn't know that. They probably thought Rajon was a flash in the pan, who had his 10 minutes of glory.

But of course, we know this isn't the case. We know what he is capable of doing, and we also know there's more to come.

So with that said, I will give my straight forward assessment, and say that Rondo hasn't arrived yet. He's progressed a whole lot over the course of three years, becoming more vocal, conjuring up an aggressive spirit, and showing a semblance of a jump shot--but he hasn't arrived at the level where I can say that he belongs in the same group as the Big 3.

If anything, his performance against the Bulls in last year's playoff earned him a foot in the door, making him a member of the Big 3 and a 1/2.

But this year will be different--it won't be the Big 3 + Rajon anymore (not after what he experienced last year). He tasted how good it felt being the Man and coming up big in Garnett's absence. He looked comfortable, and even thrived, with all eyes on him. His confidence took a leap to the next level when he witnessed that on any given night, he is one of the top players on the court.

Add that to the fact that this is a contract year for him, as well as the fuel Ainge added to the fire when he publicly criticized Rajon for being late to practices, and also pointing out shortcomings in Rajon's game (I think Ainge is using these quibs to motivate Rondo), and I can see Rajon putting in overtime in his summer workouts to be a much better player than the one we last saw last season.

Not that Rajon needs motivation--he's a gym rat to begin with. But I think he senses that he is on the verge of stardom, and I'm confident that he won't let anything stop him.

Let his critics put their foot in their mouths. Let the uneducated fans frantically google his name and watch his YouTube highlights. Rajon is going to step up his game this year, making it the year of the....

BIG FOUR

This year will be Rajon's first trip to the All-Star game. He will take his place as one of the league's best PG's. His jerseys will begin selling like hotcakes. Shaq will give him his very own nickname (I'm surprised Celtics fans haven't already done so).

And we will leave the competition in the dust. Seriously, in 2007 when we were champs, teams paid zero attention to Rajon, and instead put an extra defensive player on Pierce, Ray, or Garnett. Last year was the same, as Orlando egged Rondo to shoot the ball (they learned from the Chicago series that if you back off of Rajon and force him to shoot, he becomes much less dangerous).

But this summer, I know Rajon has been extensively working on his jumper, and I wouldn't doubt that running floaters are on his workout regime too. My advice to Rajon is, watch Tony Parker highlights, and mimic what he does.

When he shows up for training camp, the buzz is going to be around him. I think we're going to see a new and improved Rajon--a much more confident Rajon with the poise of a leader. No longer a quiet guy who rubs his teammates the wrong way--but a vocal floor general who will use his voice to raise the intensity level of his teammates.

I think he'll control the action more, not immediately lobbing passes into the post to Garnett, not feeding Pierce or Ray the ball as quickly as he used to do. He's now a scoring threat, and if he feels he has a better matchup, he's going to exploit it.

He'll make better decisions, he'll attack more, and he'll take pressure off of the Big 3. And at the end of the game, defeated teams will shake their heads and say, "who can stop the Big 4?"

And the simple answer to this is--you can't. Not with Rajon playing like an All-Star.
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« Reply #1 on Aug 15, 2009, 9:32pm »

I thought Rondo was an all-star last year (Mo Williams?) in the East. However, Rondo is a second tier PG (Paul, D Williams, etc are first tier).
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« Reply #2 on Aug 15, 2009, 9:47pm »


Aug 15, 2009, 9:32pm, Roadrunner wrote:
I thought Rondo was an all-star last year (Mo Williams?) in the East. However, Rondo is a second tier PG (Paul, D Williams, etc are first tier).


The East's PG ranking is a bit weak. What are we looking at: Devin Harris, Jose Calderon, Derrick Rose, Rajon, Mo Williams as the top 5?

If Rajon is able to dictate what he does offensively, he could possibly challenge Rose for the top spot (but I'd give Rose the edge because he's such a scoring force).
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« Reply #3 on Aug 15, 2009, 10:22pm »

I'm looking forward to the Big 6... Add Perk and Sheed to that mix. Perk has improved every season that he has been in the league. He took a big step last season when KG went out, especially in the playoffs and I expect him to be even better this season. Sheed has something to prove and will be energized to play with KG and so I can see us having a Big 6. I can't wait for the season to start.
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« Reply #4 on Aug 15, 2009, 10:56pm »

We could have the Big 7, if we add Baby to the mix :D

But I label 4 players as the Big 4 cause I feel that these 4 could be All-Stars this season.

Perk is a solid role player, but likely isn't an All-Star. Even in his best year, he'll have to compete with Shaq, Howard, KG, Bosh, Horford, Lopez, and maybe Beasley for a spot on the All-Star squad.

Rajon could beat out Mo Williams this year, and compete against Rose and Harris for a spot.
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« Reply #5 on Aug 16, 2009, 5:32am »

Thing is i'd take PErk over a lot of those guys. I know you'll think i'm nuts but i think Perk helps the team more than Shaq at this point in his career. No he doesnt put up the numbers but he's a better defender, shotblocker and rebounder per minute and plays his role. I also think KG isnt a center. He's a pf. Horford is an undersized center. Lopez is a versatile player but isn't the beast Perk is. Beasley is a terrible defensive player. So Perk> everyone but howard. The thing is the allstar panel probably wont see it that way because shaq is shaq and some other players will put up numbers and its a numbers game. Perk plays defense though. Perk really dominated Howard head to head defensively.

I personally think Howard, Noah, Perk are the 3 best centers in the east. Rasheed would be on that list too but he's more of a pf. But he's actually a center too. Shaq would be up there too, but he isn't the dominating force he once was. He's more a blob.
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« Reply #6 on Aug 16, 2009, 7:35am »

Perks is not an all-star player outright, however he is one of the defensive Cs in the game, esp the East. Opponents had to work hard for their production. Though, I would like Perks to accept some of the personal fouls he receives, because he just seems to go "animal" (muppets) every time he is called.
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Thing is i'd take PErk over a lot of those guys. I know you'll think i'm nuts but i think Perk helps the team more than Shaq at this point in his career. No he doesnt put up the numbers but he's a better defender, shotblocker and rebounder per minute and plays his role. I also think KG isnt a center. He's a pf. Horford is an undersized center. Lopez is a versatile player but isn't the beast Perk is. Beasley is a terrible defensive player. So Perk> everyone but howard. The thing is the allstar panel probably wont see it that way because shaq is shaq and some other players will put up numbers and its a numbers game. Perk plays defense though. Perk really dominated Howard head to head defensively.

I personally think Howard, Noah, Perk are the 3 best centers in the east. Rasheed would be on that list too but he's more of a pf. But he's actually a center too. Shaq would be up there too, but he isn't the dominating force he once was. He's more a blob.


For this team, I think Perk is a better fit than Lopez. But if I was starting a team from scratch, I'd take Lopez. He is going to be a better rebounding version of Big Z. And in today's NBA, that would make him a top 5 center. He was a draft steal for New Jersey.
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« Reply #8 on Aug 16, 2009, 7:48am »

I hear you. Lopez is definately a more versatile player there are very few true centers in the league. Perk is actually one of them. He's also one the leagues best on defense.
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« Reply #9 on Aug 16, 2009, 7:55am »

I think this team is a big 6. If by big 6 you have 6 allstar quality players. I know Derren won't agree but I t hink Rondo, Ray, Pierce, Garnett, Perk and Sheed are all allstar quality players. I dont think Davis is an allstar quality player. I dont think Daniels is either. Or House. House should be in the 3 pt shooting contest and is one of the leagues best 3 pt shooters.
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« Reply #10 on Aug 16, 2009, 7:57am »

One of the things that makes Perk such a great fit for this team is his attitude. On teams like this, it is easy for everyone else to always bow to the big dog on the team (in this case, three big dogs). This happened to Garnett in Minnesota once a lot of the vets left/retired. Perk is not afraid to say what needs to be said, regardless of who it's about.
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« Reply #11 on Aug 16, 2009, 8:00am »

People forget how dominant Perk was in hte playoffs last year. Rondo had a marvelous run but Perk was just as impressive if not moreso. It's time Perk gets his due. I expect with KG and Sheed Perk will be overlooked but might actually have his strongest year this year. I think after these guys are gone Perk is going to be a beast for us and a staple. He's actually developed a post game and displayed it in the playoffs. People forget that and he is still going to get better.

Perk is like our kevin youkilis imo. People dont realize how good he is. Youk used to be "just a roleplayer" to a lot of people but people overlook how much of a leader Perk is. Now Youk is a stud and i expect the same to happen with Perk. Rondo is our pedrioia.
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Perk is that leader and workmanlike player thats going to pay off in the long run I guess is what I'm saying. It's not lik ehe doesnt have the body for it.
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« Reply #13 on Aug 16, 2009, 8:36am »

KP to CF00 for the Perk love. I have been saying this all along. Perk won't make the all star game because ir is more a popularity contest than picking a defensive center and if KG, Ray, Rondo or Pierce make it, chances are they won't pick another Celtic. But Perk really is a top center and really is more important to this team than he is given credit for.
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« Reply #14 on Aug 16, 2009, 8:57am »

Daryl johnston was a fb for the cowboys who was kind fo that unsung player but was a fan favorite and people who watched the team really knew how important he was. Moose was a beast. Youkilis is the same way. Johnston ultimately made the probowl. Youk made the allstar team. I think the same will happen for Perk. I actually expect perkins to be a staple on this team though after the big 3 are gone. I think he is going to be one of our main cogs for a long time.

Robert Parish if you watched him was also not your prototypical star player. He just knew how to play his role and play off other people and hit his shots and made a living off knowing how to close down the lane and hit his shots a high percentage and rebound. Perk is very similar. He might not be as good as Parish but I don tthink he's that far off. Perk is still only like 25 or 26 and just entering his prime.

I would put money on Perk barring injury making the allstar team before his career is over. If he doesnt the league is a corrupt mess.
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